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US Slogan Cancels

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Posted 07/03/2020   06:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add xbolts to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PLEASE DON'T STOP POSTING--MANY WATCHERS--I WILL POST IN THE FUTURE AS SOON AS I GET MY SCANNER WORKING? THANK'S FOR ALL YOUR POSTS-
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Posted 07/03/2020   2:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gslaten to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okey dokey.
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Posted 08/02/2020   07:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnimatedFDCs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just joining this topic. I have always thought slogan cancels were a very interesting topic to study and exhibit that really doesn't cost a lot of $$$. But it is fun and interesting and as this thread shows there is so much to study. I have shown three from my collection. I have a pretty large specialized collection of these advertising slogan cancels from the 1939-40 New York World's Fair. These cancellations were used at several post offices around New York to publicize the 1940 season on the Fair.



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Posted 11/15/2020   8:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are three later slogans I picked up recently.





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Posted 12/18/2020   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a nice slogan cancel from Greenfield, Michigan. The font doesn't look standard, though, I'm wondering about the legitimacy of this post office. Greenfield Village, adjacent to Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, is a re-created 1890s town -- but no one actually lives there. If I recall, Ford moved Edison's early laboratory to the site, hence the postmark.

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Posted 12/18/2020   6:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The signature is George H. Neisler

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Posted 12/18/2020   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostalHysteria to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My undertanding is that the Edison postmark is a hand cancel, not machine
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Posted 12/18/2020   10:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, was the Greenfield postmark more of souvenir cancel?
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Posted 12/18/2020   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostalHysteria to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, a big celebration was held that day. A web search containing these words

greenfield edison golden jubilee october 21

turned up several interesting online websites.
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Posted 12/18/2020   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looked like a machine cancel to me,
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Posted 12/18/2020   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rod222 raises a good point for discussion of machine vs handstamp.

The literature attributes this to a handstamp, and I agree. With only 1 copy at hand, the quick glance might say "machine", but when several copies are compared it becomes more obvious that this is a handstamp. Here is a copy I had handy:



Clearly the postal clerk did a good job of making good impressions which generally resemble a machine. Now having 3 scans posted, one would expect near-identical cancels if this were a machine, however:

1. All cancels from a machine would be parallel to top edge and the same distance down from the top. The cancel on my example is too low and angled, and essentially impossible to feed and get a low impression.

2. The horizontal displacement of the cancels should also be nearly identical as each mail piece passes through the feeding mechanism of the machine. This is not exhibited with these 3 examples either. I do suspect the clerk aligned the hand-held cancel against a jig block to get many of them very close to parallel, but the left/right consistency is not there.

Additionally, the font and style of the dial does not come close to matching any then-current machine.
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Posted 12/18/2020   11:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nicely explained John,
Once again it did not occur to me distance from top, although you answered that a few days ago.

I thought the circular date stamp dodgy, and the cover you have shown,
indicates the handstamp well, with the slip of the bars.


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Posted 12/18/2020   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, the bars on my example are wonky. No doubt this device is made of rubber, but still not quite sure how they managed to make the impression they did!
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Posted 12/19/2020   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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but still not quite sure how they managed to make the impression they did!


I was considering that too, I must say quite a good effort, the dial as you call it, as well.
Some sort of reverse moulding.
Australian modern "click" and press cancellers are rubber I think.

Making a rubber stamp...
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Posted 12/19/2020   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
George H. Neisler was postmaster of Dearborn, MI, not specifically "Greenfield". So I think this was probably more like a show cancel for the event. But why they went to the trouble of making a hand cancel look like a machine cancel is puzzling. Maybe to give Greenfield Village the appearance of a real town?
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