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Newfoundland Recovered From The Sea

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Posted 10/18/2012   12:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Partime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I thought this was an interesting comment in my Scott's album.

"Examples of No 60 on red tinted paper are from a recovered consignment that fell into the sea."

I wonder if they were deliberately tinted red before, or somehow during the recovery effort. In any case, I have a few others of various colors to show the difference.

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Posted 10/18/2012   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting question. No idea. Thanks for the posting.
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Posted 10/18/2012   1:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cynical to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Partime: nice selection of shades for Newfoundland Scott#60. In the interests of science you might have to consider putting one of the others into salt water to see if it turns that pinkish shade.

Does the stamp on the lower left have a greenish tint to it or are my old eyes deceiving me?
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Posted 10/18/2012   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you do take Cynical up on his offer, make sure to enclose it in an iron box to make sure it wasn't the oxidation of the iron that contributed to the red color.
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Posted 10/18/2012   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canadianphilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I had a Newfie joke right about now.
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Posted 10/18/2012   3:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cynical: I may try the salt idea on one of the top two stamps. The bottom left does indeed have a green tint, and I can't identify it among the Scott 60 varieties. I'm going to soak off the paper fragments and then check against a color gauge later to see if there are any suprises.

It just seems odd that only red tinted paper variety would show up on the items that fell into the sea. One theory I have is that they were kept in containers with some sort of red pigment that then "damaged" all of the stamps. However, it is a recognized variety, though not worth much. I just thought that one of our many Canadian friends might be able to shine some more light on the subject.

OK, how many Newfoundlanders does it take to make a new variety of stamp? Apparently two: the guy that dropped it, and the guy that recovered and sold it.
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Posted 10/18/2012   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Partime..Great stamps..Great joke..
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Posted 10/18/2012   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add plsllvn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it fell into the "Red Sea"?

Had to be said...lol

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Posted 10/18/2012   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the lower left does indeed have a greenish tint. I have rescanned with my color gauge to attempt a color check. My eyes aren't are good as they used to be, but it appears closest to Greenish Blue.

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Posted 06/29/2013   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One cannot be sure--but I think you have an uncatalogued color of either greenish blue or turquish blue.

Maybe worth sending to BNAPs or the like?
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Posted 06/29/2013   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I tried to clean up the paper fragments, but they are attached pretty well. I think it looks very close to your example, though. Maybe aging or sunlight, but pretty interesting that at least two of them exist. Perhaps other members have examples to share?
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Posted 06/17/2020   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BUMPING this older thread. I finally cleaned up my turquoise stamp and re-scanned. Probably just a slight color-changeling.
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Posted 06/18/2020   06:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's interesting to me that the pink #60 is used, simply because if it fell into the sea wouldn't the gum have been soaked off? Or all of the sheets stuck together?

Could it be that this particular stamp lived part of it's life on a red envelope?

Although the "lost at sea" story is pretty cool.
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Posted 06/08/2021   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dadof3 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
...speaking of #60 shades, anyone have a good set of reference stamps for #60 and shades? Also the SG shades? I have many copies that I can separate, but can't really nail based on the Scott or Stanley Gibbons description (also a couple dozen mint blocks...)
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Posted 06/08/2021   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are my best examples, which may be of some use. I caution though that in my opinion, determining color or shade is somewhat subjective, since factors like time, aging, but also setting of scanner, even settings of your monitor, and even one's eye introduce non-objective factors. Its dang hard to classify them. But its great you are trying to do so and a classic Newfoundland issue to challenge one. This is a perfect example, of why Newfoundland collecting seems so simple at 100,000 feet--but deep complexity when you pause and read and reflect..

Enjoy
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Posted 06/08/2021   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few of mine...And Tommy is correct, dealing with NFLD stamps, you WILL "Go down the rabbit hole"..When looking at some thing as small as NFLD perforations, they may be as many as 10 - 13 different perfs.

btw..great stamps Tommy.

Robert


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