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Posted 01/28/2013   10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dicati to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I saw the 5p Transvaal stamp on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRANSVAAL-2...047675.l2557

It looks like a reprint with the dots not lining up at the bottom of the letters but the seller says the CV is 4000$. What do you think?
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Posted 01/28/2013   10:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think 99.99% of the 5 Transvaal are reprints...
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Posted 01/28/2013   10:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dicati to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, but I don't why that seller confidently says the CV is 4000$.
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Posted 01/28/2013   10:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many sellers/Dealers don't know reals from fakes.
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Posted 01/29/2013   02:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So how do you tell real from fake? I would like to know as I have a full set of Transvaal, including the 5, but without the V.R.I. overprint.

Terry
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Posted 01/29/2013   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Winning bid was a good one!
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Posted 01/29/2013   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry. My post should read how do you tell the original printing from reprints? Anybody know?

Terry
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Posted 01/29/2013   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Terry---if nobody answers the question ,then I'll try to capture the one above and put up one of my fakes next to it later today,I know mine are fakes.
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Hi Floortrader,

Thank you. That would be a great help. I'd like to know one way or other if I have the real thing.

Terry
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Posted 01/29/2013   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add backroads to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a link to a topic I posted some time ago. Some very useful information on how to recognize real vs fake - the examples shown are, I think, fake. However, it's such a complicated area that I think anyone wanting to tell them apart would need to actually see a genuine stamp in order to know what they are looking for.

http://goscf.com/t/15747&SearchTerms=Transvaal
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Thank you backroads, that makes interesting reading. I am going to London in a few weeks so will try the British Museum to see if they have any in their collections.

Terry
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Posted 01/29/2013   9:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I try to capture two stamps but it didn't work to put them in the same scan .But here is my forgery copy ,the most notable is the letter "A" it is missing the cross bar .

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Posted 01/29/2013   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the copy off of eBay ------


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Posted 01/30/2013   12:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dicati to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi Terry and Floortrader, I hear some other people say that to distinguish the reals and the fakes/reprints look at the 3 dots next letter VRI, the fakes/reprints do not have the dots lining up with the bottom of the letters. Some others say, count the number of bars\dashes right below wagon, one will have 8 and one will have 9, I dont remember exactly which one.
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Posted 01/30/2013   02:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gibbons has this warning about the 5 stamp: "Many examples of [the 5] on the market are forgeries and the stamps should only be purchased if accompanied by a recent expert committee certificate."

Probably a very wise precaution
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Posted 01/30/2013   03:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The set I have is the 1885 first issue, SG175-187, without the 1900 V.R.I. overprint (and if the Gods smile, original not reprint).
They are packed away prior to a house move, but if I can get them out I will post some scans here.

Found so far from Stanley Gibbons..........

Reprints, produced using the original plates date from 1911 onwards, and are all perf 12.5 large holes.
Paper of reprints is thinner and whiter than that used for originals.
Colours of reprints lack the lustre of genuine originals.
Reprints can be found with forged surcharges.

I'll post any further information I dig up, meanwhile all information from you guys will be very much appreciated.

Terry
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