More Paquebot Cancels

For those interested in Paquebot Cancels I would suggest this standard reference work :

Roger Hosking, M.A., " Paquebot Cancellations Of The World " published by author, Surrey, England, 1977.

In the UK all international mail is handled at HWDC and any surface mail arriving by ship at Southampton, Liverpool etc continues by road or rail to that distribution centre. The reverse process happens too... which explains why a birthday card to your granny in Australia takes three weeks to arrive
UK no longer processes mail with non-uk stamps attached from ships arriving at sea-ports. The paquebot facility was withdrawn years ago... end of the eighties sometime.

The Roger Hoskings reference book that March mentioned is apparently the paquebot bible for those who collect sea post mail.

The TPO&SS (Travelling Post Office & Seapost Society) will mention this book in their auction lots as reference numbers on many occasions.

This is one book I wish I could get access to but, hear it too comes up on auction every now and then, but it can be pricey.

Chimo

Bujutsu

While we are still on the topic of ship mail, I just wanted to show the cancel I got on a cover only last night at our local stamp club meeting.

The cancel shows the latest version of the Muskoka Fleet postmark. It isn't the best example but this does tell me that I will have to go down to Gravenhurst this summer and have some examples mailed up to me.

Chimo

Bujutsu

The cover here does not have any "Paquebot" cancellation or any other marking pertaining to a seapost mail item, but, nonetheless is one.

I have about 2 large shoe boxes loaded with mail from this family (plus relatives with other surnames) during WW I. Mr. Chapman was on board the S.S. Shinyo Maru on his way to Vladivostok,Russia, because he was one of the few soldiers in the Canadian army to have been with the CEF forces in Siberia just after WW I. On its' way to Russia, this ship stopped at Hong Kong and was posted from the port there.

This is a very interesting cover especially too because of the logo in the upper left corner.

Chimo

Bujutsu

About the name on the upper left corner LABEL : The "Missions to Seamen" name was changed years ago to " Mission to Seafarers"
The Mission to Seafarers is a global maritime welfare charity working in over 260 ports in 71 countries to support the 1.3 million men and women who face danger every day to keep our global economy afloat.
It's LOGO , then and present-day, is a " Flying Angel" ( it can be noticed on this cover's Label). That's why sometimes the seafarers call this " club" : " Flying Angel".
To help the seafarers with the postage/correspondence at The Mission to Seafarers the crew can find, among others, stamps, labels, envelopes, etc. A staff's member is in charge with collecting the letters from attending crew and then send all correspondence from Post Office.
In ports like : Hamburg, Antwerpen, Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Houston, etc., " Mission to Seafarers" have big and nice venues where the seamen enjoy the few days availableto them when ships operate in ports.

http://www.missionstoseamen.org/

Interesting information.

I might use this on my album page once I mount them.

In some of the correspondence with this collection, I have letters that mention the Halifax explosion, and WW I battles.

I have large manila envelopes for the years 1914 to 1919 for this family and for a lot of the covers, I can track an individuals location in the war theatre.

Chimo

Bujutsu

I just found out that this ship, the S.S. Shinyu Maru was also the same ship referred to in WW II as one of the 'hell ship' that had US POWs on board. This vessel was sunk in WW II by the USS Paddle, near the Philippines and a lot of the POWs were rescued as a result.

Hope I'm not deviating too much off of the paquebot topic

Chimo

Bujutsu

Bujutsu,

I love the cover, it has that reality aspect, that sweaty, lived in look that so many modern covers lack.

I also believe (my subjective viewpoint) that the tears add to the value because unlike a stamp, the wear and tear add to the legitimacy, to the cachet...1919 after all is a LONG time ago

But I'm a contrarian on covers.

Thanks for sharing it.

UPU Rules and the use of PAQUEBOT cancels & Cachets - further clarification

Initially introduced by the UPU in 1891, and further refined in 1924, the rules for using the 'Paquebot' cachet or postmark basically state that any post mailed on the high seas may be franked using the stamps and rate of the country of origin of the vessel, and will be accepted and carried forward by the postal service of any port at which the mail is then handed over. This system leads to the regular occurrence of stamps from one country being found with the postmarks of another cancelling them.

The exception to the rule is that any post mailed on a vessel in port, either at the beginning or end of the journey, or at any intermediary port of call, has to be franked with the issues of the country in question, and using their rates of postage.

Thanks for that March. It adds more clarity to the issue.

I may be adding more images with paquebot or ship cancellations in the future.

Chimo

Bujutsu

For those interested in studying and collecting merchant marine markings and postmarks , as well as PAQUEBOT markings and postmarks here is the useful site of THE MARITIME POSTMARK SOCIETY whose official journal is "SEAPOSTER". ( The Vice-President is Roger Hosking - see my previous mentioning about his book ) :

http://www.judnick.com/judnick/mari...ksociety.htm

Here is another, 1940, with an Argentina 15c bull, traveling via the steamship S.S. Uruguay.



Certainly not uncommon, but a pleasing appearance.

Here is a rather impressive shot of the ship:

Great cover cjd

It is always nice to have a photo of the ship too when there is just a cancel and no image otherwise.

Chimo

Bujutsu

Very difficult to get it !