Varieties Of Scott 1055 Jefferson Coil

I have recently purchased a collection with numerous 1055 coil line pairs and have been trying to distinguish the different varieties. I have separated the large hole and small hole as well as the tagging. My question is really between the Scott and Brookman catalogs. Brookman has a 1055s (dry,small hole,no tag) and Scott does not. Scott just has dry, small hole under 1055. The value is significantly different. $1.50 Scott compared to $30 Brookman (these are older catalogs). Any help out there?

My read of the 2013 Scott Specialized Catalog (the latest I have) suggests that #1055 can be (dry, no tag) with either large or small holes. MNH LP is $1.50 (large holes) and $50 (small holes).

Scott #1055a is (dry, tagged) with small holes only. Also note that within #1055a, there are shiny gum and dull gum varieties (that can be identified only on mint stamps). MNH LP is $0.75 (shiny gum) and $6 (dull gum).

Incidentally, Scott lists #1055d as the wet printing, large hole variety. MNH LP is $3.50. They do note #1055d with small holes, but no value is indicated, suggesting that there is limited sales activity to establish a value.

Thanks for the information wt1. My latest Scott Specialized catalog is 2001, I just ordered a 2014. The value for an unused small hole
is $1.50. Has the values increased that much? I just figured I was reading something wrong since I ended up with 20 1055 MNH LP's of the small hole,
untagged, only one of the large hole and a dozen 1055a tagged.

The 2014 Scott lists an unused small hole 1055 single at $7, pair at $17.50. Large hole LPs are $1.50 while small hole LPs are $50. 1055a LPs are $0.75 for shiny gum & $6 for dull gum.
Sounds like your old Brookman was more accurate than your old Scott.
ADDED: Should have read wt's post more carefully. Basically there's no change in Scott CVs from 2013 to 2014.

Is there an easy way to make sure the small holes from the large. The best way I found is to find a large hole stamp and compare others to it. I know everyone says to look at the paper between holes, but it is still difficult, for me anyway, to tell which one I have without comparing with a known large hole stamp.

The small hole wet printing 2 cent Liberty coil strip is unique. Visually, if the paper between the holes is wider than the hole, it is small hole. If the paper between the holes is smaller than the holes, it is large hole. A simple check is that large hole perforations measure more than one millimeter and small hole less. Measuring with a scanner, dry printed small hole stamps will measure about .038 inches in diameter and large hole will be about .043 to .045 inches in diameter. Wet printed stamps are a bit more complicated. Small hole stamps will measure consistently .038 or .039 and the curvature of the hole where not expanded by the sideways motion of the perforation pins will match a .038 diameter round target. Large holes will measure in the range .043 to 0.45 inches. Slightly enlarged holes is a possible indicator of worn perforation pins. The APS and PSAG can expertize small hole wet printings. Any service should be able to expertize large and small hole dry printings.

Clark

Just as Clark suggests, I always use a metric ruler to measure the hole size on Liberty series stamps. The small holes will measure slightly less than 1mm while the large holes will measure slightly more than 1mm. And I do mean slightly!

Thanks everyone for the help and information. Much appreciated.

Thanks cfrphoto for small & large hole measurements. I purchased an assorted pkg of 50 Dritz sewing needles(sizes not indicated)and found only 2 that were 1mm (0.039 inch) measured with a hand micrometer. I gently inserted the point into a Liberty Series coil pair perf hole, letting needle slide down gently on its own up the shaft- being sure not put any pressure so as not to enlarge hole and found if it easily slides to past 3/4th of shaft towards needle eye it should be a large hole variety (over 1mm).If, when inserting needle in coil pair perf hole, it stops about ½ inch from point, it is smaller than 1mm, so it should be a small hole variety. Again, I did not force, letting needle work on its own, keeping top eye of needle away from perf so it does not enlarge or damage perf hole. Seems to work so far. Since, I found which may be a better needle pkg from a German company called Schmetz Needles. Their size for 1mm (0.039inch) is 100/16 and come 5 to a pkg. Best prices with shipping was on ebay. Just search Schmetz needles 100/16

I like the needle idea to measure as I would think it would be far more accurate measuring effectively a circumference of a hole rather than just a diameter which can be both subjective and prone to higher error.

Great thought, and thanks for sharing.

JNytro these are the new Scott numbers for listed varieties of Scott 1055 in 2015 Scott Specialized. 1055-large holes, wet printing, 1954; also Small holes;1055a Large holes, dry printing, 1957; also small holes, 1961; 1055b Tagged,Small holes, shinny gum, 1968; also Dull gum, tagged, small holes; 1055c Imperf. pair untagged, shinny gum(Bureau Precanceled, Riverdale,MD; 1055d Imperf. pair, tagged, shinny gum. Remember there has been major Scott number changes in the Liberty Series -you really have to look closely at description when buying because you do not know what numbers dealers/sellers are using.

Thanks for the continued comments. I have since purchased a perforation gauge that has the small and large holes on it. Although I have not dug these stamps back out to see how well it works yet. I will have to remember the needle idea for future reference. Acanalizo, I was comparing the Scott 2014 numbers with yours and it appears that they have changed things around. Wow, that really makes things confusing on knowing for sure who is using what year of Scott catalogue.

Yes, JNytro, as I state above, Scott has made massive changes in the Liberty Series Scott #'s. The old #'s are completely outdated for most part.
Also J78 & J80-84 have changed. One MUST LOOK AT COMPLETE DESCRIPTION as well as Scott # until everyone changes over, which may take a very long time. I feel in the end, this will be a benefit to us all, once everyone is aboard.

Wish I would have known prior to purchasing the 2014 recently. Thanks for the info though.

IMPORTANT: In my post above of 11/4/14 I stated that maybe the Schmetz needles 100/16 may be better. I received today and tried. They are NOT what to use. Those sewing machine needles have a flatted spot on the shaft near the tip where it is threaded and it is 1.07mm- 1.08mm at that point -way to big for checking large/small holes and could damage stamps. The only needles that work are regular hand sewing 1mm needles that I spoke about where they are threaded on top, not the sewing machine needle threaded near the bottom. You only want to use a hand sewing needle that is 1mm - no bigger otherwise it will damage stamp.