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Posted 09/11/2016   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add GregAlex to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This one came out of a dollar box; there were several similar cards from the same sender. It's a common UX9 postcard, sent to Gageville, OH in 1887, with a nice St. Paul & Mandan RPO cancellation. But the message on the back is a mystery. What is this writing? A form of shorthand? Some kind of code? I've already held it up to a mirror, but that didn't seem to make a difference.



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Posted 09/11/2016   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen letters written like this as well. It might be an early form of Pittman shorthand.
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Posted 09/11/2016   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Back in the day, lots of folks took shorthand training in high school.

As for identifying what you've got, try:

http://www.alysion.org/handy/althandwriting.htm

http://pitmanshorthand.homestead.co...tsample.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorthand

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 09/14/2016   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've looked through Pitman and many of the other shorthand charts now and nothing really matches this lettering. I'm thinking it may be a cipher.
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Posted 11/22/2016   10:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Klaus Schmeh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the solution:
"Once more I come down to postal card…
…October twentyeth eighteen eighty seven.
Here I am at home once more. At all the home
that you and I will have. A nice comfortable
home of our own. Ohanna how I do love you. I am
thinking of you so much. I got here this a.m. (?)
+ have been busy visiting + packing.
I have all my packing done + am all ready
to start as far as that goes. But I want to
visit lots more + ….. to leave here
Saturday morning + go to Fargoston (?)
there… till Sunday evening at about
eighteen. Then I will get into St. Paul
Monday morning at seven fifty +
will leave at once for Cedar Rapids,
geting there between seven +
eight monday evening + then to
Mt. Vernon by eleven fifty. That
I think will be the plan I will carry
out if nothing happens. I am feeling
first class but I want to hear from you
tomorrow. That was forwarded to
me at Cavalier from Grafton.
I won´t be able to write my usual
sunday letter + perhaps I won´t
write again until I…
I wrote Frank that I was coming +
also my cousin to … professor
….. to have my room ready for my
….everything will be ok
for me. Well I must stop…."

The code was broken by reader Thomas on my Blog Klausis Krypto Kolumne: http://scienceblogs.de/klausis-kryp...mment-823504
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Posted 11/22/2016   10:32 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Klaus,
Welcome and thank you, nicely done! Please pass our thanks on to your reader Thomas.
Don
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Posted 11/22/2016   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Klaus, thank you for this!
One small item. In your quest you mentioned that you can not find St Paul & Mandan by Googling it.
St.Paul & Mandan was a railroad between St Paul and Mandan, North Dakota. This railroad was authorized to have an RPO, or Railroad Post Office in it's trains.

Peter
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Posted 11/22/2016   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Klaus Schmeh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, Peter: You're welcome, it was my pleasure. If you know other encrypted postcards, feel free to contact me.

Klaus
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Posted 11/22/2016   12:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mml1942 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Klaus:

Was this a simple substitution cipher, or was there some other elements involved?
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Posted 11/22/2016   9:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brilliant! I would also like to know the cipher.
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Posted 12/17/2018   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Yes, I've PM'd Klaus (above) to ask for his help





I would dazzle y'all with my encyclopedic knowledge of ANGBATS PXP and UPSALA 3 TUR, but:

http://goscf.com/t/9771 ... Question about 1907 Swedish Postmark

So my postmark is 1890, not 1990, r-i-g-h-t ?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 12/18/2018   01:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erilaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Was this a simple substitution cipher, or was there some other elements involved?

Just by comparing the first six words of the message, it seems pretty clear that it is just a simple substitution cipher.

I'm quite certain that ikeyPikey's Swedish card is in some form of shorthand, but I can't read it. I have this German and Volapük postcard in my own collection with a (Gabelsberger?) shorthand message that remains a complete mystery to me.




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Posted 12/31/2018   06:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's cool.
And I thought my handwriting was bad! :)
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Posted 11/17/2020   12:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've come across another coded postcard, this time from Canada. This one appears to be more complex. Perhaps Klaus is still around.


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Posted 11/17/2020   12:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And another! I believe these are from the same writer and I also now think they are written upside down, so I have rotated them...



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Posted 11/17/2020   01:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add postagedueguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently even back in the 'old days' some people simply had too much time on their hands.
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