Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read
Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Show Off Your Crosby Covers

Previous Page | Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 5
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
655 Posts
Posted 08/09/2017   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
and a Presidential
I wonder if Trump will get any kind of cover?


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Laurie 02 - 08/10/2017 7:49 pm
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2361 Posts
Posted 08/09/2017   8:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The San Diego Exposition cover is a neat oddity,

Mr Crosby also used the wrong bear. that is a black bear, California's Flag features a Grizzly Bear. Differently shaped heads.





Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by littleriverphil - 08/09/2017 8:12 pm
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
655 Posts
Posted 08/09/2017   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
one of my posts went a bit haywire so I have changed the name of the file and I will repost



Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
655 Posts
Posted 08/09/2017   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, how can you tell if it is a crosby cover?
is it the thermo print only?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1324 Posts
Posted 08/09/2017   9:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
So, how can you tell if it is a crosby cover?
is it the thermo print only?
No, that's not enough. There are a couple of other cachet makers who produced thermographed cachets. Usually you know it is Crosby by a combination of things, like the photo (but not all have photos), or subject matter. There is a catalog of Crosby covers, but it is hardly exhaustive, so there are probably some covers that might be hard to identify for certain. Mellone's Catalogue of First Day Covers is pretty exhaustive for Crosby FDC's, but he did so much more than just FDC's. His real specialty was Naval covers, and there are probably some resources for helping to identify which of those are his. My "expertise" is pretty much limited to airmail FDC's and WWII patriotic covers. There is a specialized catalog of the latter -- Sherman's "United States Patriotic Covers of World War II" -- which catalogs 453 Crosby patriotic covers, but says that counting variants would bring the number closer to 600. These are the kinds of resources that might be used to verify a Crosby cover.

Basil
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
655 Posts
Posted 08/09/2017   10:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow, thats a lot of covers, they are very nice and "quirky" with the small photo in a printed frame, Any idea on how many were printed of each cover?

I suppose to collect properly you would need every resource available!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
682 Posts
Posted 08/10/2017   07:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Glenn Estus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply




Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
682 Posts
Posted 08/10/2017   07:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Glenn Estus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think that one develops a "feel" for Crosby covers after collecting them for a number of years. Some examples will have a Copyright notice by Crosby under the area in the upper right where the stamp would go.

There are covers which are labeled as "Crosby" solely on the basis of the small pasted photo, which I don't feel is necessarily true. The type of description and font style in the rest of the cachet is also very important. Here are some other thermographic photo covers which I have a feeling are NOT Crosby, but I have never been able t discover anything which would prove my feeling.



Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
682 Posts
Posted 08/10/2017   07:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Glenn Estus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
homemade Crosby cover on #10 envelope to fit the blocks of 4. However, it's not a FDC. 4 days later.


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Glenn Estus - 08/10/2017 09:45 am
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
655 Posts
Posted 08/10/2017   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely covers Glenn Estus, even if they are not Crosby covers!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
655 Posts
Posted 08/10/2017   7:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good morning everyone!

some more Crosbys for you
a couple I'm not too sure though they look like it


Not too sure if this is a Crosby...


Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
655 Posts
Posted 08/10/2017   7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
and some more



The next two, again unsure but they havr the "Crosby feel"...

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1987 Posts
Posted 08/11/2017   04:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Glenn!

As for Crosbys in general, note the FDC cachet colors (usually) strongly match the issued stamp color. I find scattered mentions about Crosby naval covers but have never seen an attempt at a listing.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1324 Posts
Posted 08/11/2017   06:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I find scattered mentions about Crosby naval covers but have never seen an attempt at a listing.

See Chapter II of "Walter G. Crosby, Philatelic Cachet Specialist," by William H. Stroebel. Stroebel's "catalog" is hardly exhaustive. It boasts "over 400 illustrations." Sherman's catalog of WWII patriotic covers lists 453 for Crosby just in the patriotic category. I would guess that there are at least a couple of thousand unique Crosby cachets, if not more. Some examples of Crosby naval covers here:

http://www.navalcovermuseum.org/res..._Crosby.html

I do think Mellone's catalog of FDC's and Sherman's of WWII patriotic covers are pretty extensive for Crosby. I am unaware of a catalog of his naval covers that would have comparable depth. (But I do not collect them, so I may be unaware of one that does exist.)

Basil
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1324 Posts
Posted 08/11/2017   06:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I wonder if Trump will get any kind of cover?

Well, not from Crosby of course. But eBay has 263 choices for you of inauguration covers for Trump:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr..._sacat=47147

Basil
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by blcjr - 08/11/2017 06:06 am
Page: of 5 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Previous Page | Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


Go to Top of Page
Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2020 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2020 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.33 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05