1c 1851 Plate 1-Late Stamps

Jaxom100, apologies for the long wait, but here is 1200DPI scan of the strip of 71-73L. Hope this is useful. I have a few other strips of two/three for both 1L and 2, I'll try to get those scanned quickly as well.

Among the specific things from Plate One Late that I am always on the lookout for are multiples with two or more of the triple transfers, examples of 89R1L showing different amounts of break in the bottom frame line, and multiples including 4R1L. The latter as the only Type II on the plate would necessarily be combined with a Type IV in a multiple. The three possibilities are 3-4R1L, 4-5R1L and 4-14R1L. I haven't been fortunate enough to acquire the latter yet, but here are a nice strip of 2-3-4R1L and a pair 4-5R1L.

@dudley, neat stuff.

89R1L has always been a favorite.
Years ago, it took me a long time, but I finally found an early impression with a complete bottom line. I will say, that was prior to internet stamp buying, which probably makes finding one a lot easier now. Back then I had to sit around and wait until Kelleher (Stanley Richmond) finally listed one in an auction. He used to have a lot of specialized stuff lotted individually.

tx, this is my copy of what I think is a complete bottom-line 89R1L. I don't have a record of where I obtained it. The double guide dots are distinguishable on this copy, though they seem to blend together on more worn-plate copies. The Neinken drawing exaggerates the separation between them.

1200DPI scan of a strip of 2. I believe these are 55-56R1L. It is hard to see the identification marks on the 55, but the stamp is a bit fade. However, under a digital magnifier, I can see faint traces of the identifying marks. Regardless, I would love a second opinion.

I also just picked up at auction a really nice 41R1L. Don't have a hi-res scan yet, but will scan as soon as it comes in. Was graded 98 and has nice large borders.

I'm about 10% toward my goal for a complete 1L, got a ways to go. But headed to St. Louis this weekend, so can hopefully find some nice #9s. Then on to Boston in May.

widget1 - That 41R1L is a super stamp with great margins and a nice cancel. It shows the surface cracks for which that position is one of the best examples clearly.

If you are interested in more high grade examples, I've consigned my collection to Chris Rupp. I didn't attempt a full plating of 1L, but I did end up acquiring many of the key positions.

Also, if you have Excel, you might like using the VBA app that I first started working on several years ago. Jaxom supplied me with tons of images and filtering criteria that he compiled. The app is especially useful for plate 1L (because it's more complete), but it covers all 12 plates. You can use it for both plating and adding notes and your own images for any position. I find the latter feature one of the most useful benefits in that you can bring together information from multiple sources and store it all in one place. Send me an email, and I'd be happy to give you a copy. I'll make some images of a few of the UserForms and post them later for you to see.

@widget1 - I agree with @widglo, that's a very nice stamp and plate position.

Its nice to see someone enthusiastic about plating.
Plate 1L is a great place to get going, as its well-documented and much easier to work with and learn from. Enjoy.

Widglo46,

Thank you for the offer of your VBA program. I would love a copy. May have to wait just a bit. As a new member, I cannot email just yet. But when I can, I will send you an email for a copy.

Also, appreciate the referral to Chris Rupp, I will defiantly send him an email. I saw a couple nice #9s from Rupp Brothers on the Collectors Corner.

txstamp,

Thank you for the compliment. I've really enjoyed the plating process with Plate 1L.

Honestly, I had tried first with the 3c Washingtons 1851-1857. There is an excellent site for that at stampplating.com. I believe the site is maintained by US Philatelic Classics Society. Also the Stamp Smarter plating page was a great resource. But is was not an easy exercise. So I switched to the 1c Plate 1L, which has been an excellent introduction to plating, especially after I found this forum and all of resources that Jaxom has made available at Stamp Smarter. Also, I think the 1c Franklin is a far more attractive stamp.

Cheers,
Josh

Josh - If you don't want to wait, you can go the direct route with widglo and Google's mail service. Here are a few sceen captures of the app:

This is the main screening form.


This is the main display worksheet for results of a search.


This is the form that allows you to compare your own images with results from a search. There are many more forms that are reference guides (standard reliefs, identifying tips, etc.).

I agree, although I always try to be respectful to red-stamp collectors.
Back in the day, we were differentiated as red-stamp or blue-stamp collectors.

@widglo46, I tried "widglo" at the standard gmail domain, and the email got kicked back, am I missing something?

But man, those screen shots look awesome.

Also, I reached out to Chris Rupp, thanks for the reference, he already got back with me and I was able to pick up a pretty nice used #9 today.

Josh - Glad to hear you found something from Rupp. Sorry about the old reference; try Lowidger.

I am hoping the gang on this topic can help me. I am having some issues plating a #9, Relief A, but when I take a look at the stamp, I question whether I really have a #9 or not.

To me, the bottom looks to be recut. But the top, although no break, does not look like its been recut to me. Seems too faint to be recut. I am not aware of a #9 that has only been cut on the bottom.

Any help would be appreciated.

Ty II #7.

I would say plate 2 columns 5L, 2R, 6R OR 7R. Could not find any marks to help with plating.