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It has been approximately 15 years since spray-on cancellations became the norm in the United States. Perhaps the non-spray cancellation machines will soon be extinct, after a decades-long period of service.  As of 2019/2020, any thoughts as to how many of the non-spray machines remain in operation? Perhaps just some low-volume postal distribution facilities? For example, all mail that I have seen from Guam continues to have a non-spray cancel. Minneapolis seems to have two non-spray machines in operation. By my calculations, less than 1% of Minneapolis mail is canceled by these older machines. All Minneapolis specimens that I have found for 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020 lack the year within the cancelation circle. Perhaps Minneapolis wants to be Peter Pan's new "Never Never Land." Furthermore, the machines' components are occasionally assembled wrong. For example, the date might appear upside-down. Perhaps the increase of cancellation errors is triggered by fewer USPS employees familiar with the older machines? Perhaps in the future I will reply to this thread with my inventory of cancellations that lack the year, plus related oddities. Disclaimers: I am neither a cancellation expert nor a postal machinery expert. I previously shared this information on a forum that has since disappeared. At that time, someone thought the non-spray cancellation machine was called a "Mark II." 
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Here is a postal service bulletin from back in 2007 about the gear which required getting a new year die sent out for the Mark II Facer Canceller, and noting that all AFCS (Advanced Face Cancellation System) had been upgraded to spray cancellation and did not need the year die any more. |
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Thank you to "jleb1979" for the postal bulletin link. I appreciate knowing this additional detail of the explanation. I have previously heard that the number/letter combination identifies the cancellation machine. On these Minneapolis year-free cancellations, I was accustomed to them always reading, "9B." Upon inventorying these covers, I realized that starting in 2019, the indicator alternates between 9B and 9C, but never in use simultaneously on the same dates. The photograph in my original post above was from envelopes processed by USPS in October 2017. Below is a photograph of misassembled cancellations from 2018 and 2019.  It will be interesting to see which city eventually has the last remaining of these cancellation machines in active operation. |
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I remain curious as to which towns will be the last to utilize the old-style cancelation machines. Unless we learn how to predict the future, the answer might not be known for many years (or perhaps just a few months or days). In the interim, I assume there are many such machines still in operation. So far this year, I have seen such cancellations from Guam, San Diego CA, Minneapolis MN, and Bemidji MN.  |
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Bluejay2 You might want to consider the Post Mark Collectors Club http://postmarks.org/Examples of recent machine cancels occasionally pop up in our monthly bulletin. I'm not aware of anyone compiling an inventory but it would be an interesting exercise. Dan  |
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Perhaps 15-20 years ago the Postal Service proactively removed and scrapped all canceling machines from the smaller offices as enforcement of their procedures requiring them to send all mail to central processing plants. Obviously there a few of the facer-canceler style remaining at these sectional centers (which may be an obsolete term now), which I sense are used very sparingly for overflow volume, or handling skips/nixie mail. In other words, not on run of the mill daily mail. Finding a current machine cancel from a truly small office would be truly unusual these days.
One of the characteristics of the true facer-canceler machine is the "lead" and "trail" dials differentiated by the pair of bars to the left of the trail dial. These are absent on all but one of the Minneapolis impressions above, which make me think this dial is being used in a single-head machine without facing ability (or only a small part of an original facer-canceler unit). The much-maligned Chamberlain machines of the 1990s were such machines, having a single canceling head, requiring mail to be manually-faced, and machined to accept the facer-canceler dials. |
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Scanned below is one I received in my mailbox from Waterloo, Iowa (population 68,000) dated November 2019. I was surprised to see they were still using the old purple ink from long ago. Linus  |
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John Becker, thank you for that great observation. I have never given attention to those marks. Assuming I am interpreting the description correctly, I annotated this graphic to bring attention to those marks.  That prompted me to reanalyze some of these covers. My quick analysis found a possible pattern: postmarks by Minneapolis' machine "9C" possess such marks. Meanwhile, the marks are absent on cancellations by machine "9B." Perhaps also noteworthy is that "9B" and "9C" seem to never be in use simultaneously. Sometimes their use is alternated every-other-day.  danstamps54, thank you for that reference to the Post Mark Collectors Club. Depending upon which web browser I utilize, I intermittently see a signature below your post. I appreciate it, as it reads, "Experienced stamps need a home too. I'd rather have an example that is imperfect than no example. I collect for enjoyment, not investment…" jleb1979, a repeated thank you for the link to the 2007 postal service articled titled, " Supply Management: 2008 Year Type for Hand Stamp and Canceling Machines." Linus, thank you for sharing the Waterloo IA cancellation. It also seems to possess the "lead" and "trail" marks referenced by John Becker. |
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Bumping this old thread to show the latest non-spray machine cancellation I received from Cedar Rapids, Iowa dated 03 March 2022. This machine looks like it could use a good cleaning, but I am here to report, it's not dead yet. Linus  |
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Here's another from San Francisco for 01 Mar 2022, with the added bonus of being a genuine commercial use of a two-ounce (2 oz.) self-adhesive value -- uncommon in my experience as these usually are seen only on wedding invitations. It is a flyer for an annual antique and art show in the city.  |
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Here's another one from the North Texas Postal Distribution Center on an invitation I received last month to attend a coin show in Wichita Falls, TX. Not a very sharp image, looks well used. Don Sellos  |
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An earlier thread: http://goscf.com/t/65087In the last post of that, Perf10 wondered: Quote: Interesting that many postal cards show up, including ones from this current year. Does the old cancelling equipment handle cards better than the new? With the recent comment on SCF that on the new machines, mail has to be able to travel around a cylinder the size of a soupcan, if I got that right. So perhaps yes, the old cancels handle cards and what I thought was supposed to be nonmachinable mail today. My contribution is a mailing of a sleeved cover between two pieces of cardboard, The mailing envelope surface got scraped up some as one might expect:  This reads Portland, OR and was mailed a few days ago in 2022. I also wonder when the USPS will start enforcing the nonmachinable rate. |
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