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Are These Post Office Likenesses Identified Anywhere In The Postal System

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Posted 05/27/2021   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add PKsPassport to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I acquired these when I was stationed in the Army in Europe. These photos preceded the actual stamps that were coming to the post office. Does anyone out here no anything about them. I know post masters were supposed to trash them when these stamps became issued. I haven't seen any info in any catalogs. Any thoughts?
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Posted 05/27/2021   2:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PKsPassport to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Disregard this topic as I can't download the photos...
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Posted 05/27/2021   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you speaking to the small black and white photo from the USPS used as publicity?

Besides postal workers, they were sent to media writers as well. I donated all I received to the Western Philatelic Library.

They are now considered loosely as modern photo essays. I know of no such listing, perhaps one day someone will undertake the cataloging.

Here is an example to which I refer:


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Posted 05/27/2021   3:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I know post masters were supposed to trash them when these stamps became issued.


I doubt this statement. Can you provide a citation for it?

While most were indeed likely discarded, I know of no directive, and certainly not accompanying those sent to the media.
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Posted 05/27/2021   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I know of no directive


Nor I, John Becker, but the OP seems to have indicated the items came to the APO "postmasters" in Germany. It would make reasonable sense that the Army may have issued such regulations for their APO personnel.
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Posted 05/27/2021   6:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's why I asked the original poster.
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Posted 05/27/2021   8:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I refer to them as Photographic Essays
Welcome any correction there.
I have quite a few of them.........

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Posted 05/27/2021   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would think that these are publicity photographs for distribution to the philatelic press and interested parties, since they are images of the actual issued stamps/designs.
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Edited by bookbndrbob - 05/27/2021 9:27 pm
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Posted 05/27/2021   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Makes sense, Bob,
but raises a question why the "Oblique Black Bar" is not included.
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Posted 05/27/2021   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
"Oblique Black Bar"

Because they are in black and white, and because they are greatly enlarged.
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Posted 05/28/2021   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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but raises a question why the "Oblique Black Bar" is not included.


Rod222, read the included on the photograph instructions (see the top) in the photo in my first post in this thread. It restricts to only black and white copies.
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Posted 05/28/2021   02:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had read that, the colour green threw me,
I thought that may have been a cinderella.

So no copyright for stamp designs, reproduced in black and white,
used in a philatelic sense.
I guess that would have been useful in days gone by, before colour
magazines.
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Posted 05/28/2021   05:21 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lines across images or the diminution of the image in old albums were, I think, in response to prohibitions, particularly in the US, on reproduction of the stamp image for counterfeiting, not copyright, reasons. So if Gibbons wished to sell albums in the US, it had to change the image in some way.
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Posted 05/28/2021   09:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a distinction between copyright and counterfeiting.

U.S. stamps have been copyrighted since 1978 (note the copyright notice on the 3 photos above, but not the earlier 10 cent airmail stamp).

For reproduction, here was the regulation in the Feb 1991 edition of the "Domestic Mail Manual" relating to color and size. I suspect the regulations are very similar today. The use of the diagonal black line makes any image "used", so the reproduced image color/size then becomes a non-issue.
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Edited by John Becker - 05/28/2021 09:29 am
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Posted 05/28/2021   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks John.
clears that up.
Saved.
Any suggestions on what to call these Photos?
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Posted 05/28/2021   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They typically accompany a press release, so I would call them "press release photos", but some like to work the word "essay" into the description.
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