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hello i am working on my list of needed stamps for the usa in my harris world stamp album what would be the scott number for that redrawn train stamp in the red box? there seems to be multiple variations of that stamp thank you 
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| Edited by Kira - 01/18/2026 5:02 pm |
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If you don't already have one, you need to get yourself a Scott catalog. Unless you are collecting current issues, save $$ and pick up an older copy. It will help you a LOT! |
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i find it hard to search in a catalog
some stamp websites are very well developed and make it easy to find stamp. the stamp identifier app is also very handy to find information about a stamp although it does not always work
interestingly enough you can ask gemini ai to identify a stamp and it is very good but the problem is all the variations some stamps have specially the annoying definitive stamps |
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@kira,
on this site, you can find several examples of AI-identified stamps and OPs who celebrate the ability of AI to identify them. In almost all cases the erroneous identification becomes obvious.
A huge problem with apps that identify stamps, is that they can only identify stamps from visible characteristics. Stamps may cost you a penny or hundreds of pounds, depending on invisible characteristics. It appears you have experienced that already.
Another shortfall is that they cannot identify stamps that the producer has not input. Google images, often, is helpful in finding directions in which to search. It benefits from continuous updates as people post new stamps. But care should be taken it might be a little different. Some people post stamps and nonsense about them that apps do not recognise. Generally, apps are helpful to get a general idea where to look for stamps. Scrutiny remains advisable. |
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Don't be insulted but using AI/apps to identify stamps is like letting AI write your school papers. It's lazy and since you aren't wising using that magnificent thing called the human brain to do the work you learn little from the process. You only learn the answer and chances are that may not be correct.
You need catalog info. It is as necessary as wheels on a car. Learn the traditional way and then you can know if AI gave you garbage or gold.
Edited to make word correction. |
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| Edited by rogdcam - 01/21/2026 2:55 pm |
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Quote: I find it hard to search in a catalog...
interestingly enough you can ask gemini ai to identify a stamp and it is very good What I love about AI is you can easily fool, lazy, trusting, uneducated or unintelligent people with ease and they never know what hit them.  |
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Teenagers are the ones that most need to do the work. Around me, young people, who already cannot make change at a register without the screen telling them exactly what to give back, leave everything up to AI. Lord help us all down the road. Maybe we are already there. |
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i take no offense no worries i will take all the free tools available to help me identify stamps including posting on stamp forums for helpful advice  |
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But Kira, how do you know what to believe when you read something when one does not have foundational knowledge to interpret the "information" being read? Perhaps a US and or Canadian stamp should be issued for George C. Parker to underscore the point. Just think if he was alive today what he could accomplish, perhaps even to get someone  to buy Greenland.  |
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Do all years have 365 days?
How often does the sun rise each day?
Should Di-hydrogen oxide be banned for use in the home since the chemical kills so many children and adults too?
Even try AI to answer if necessary. |
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Never, EVER depend on AI. It is only as good as the info it mines, and over the years I have found online information to be almost totally useless... |
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Kira, take the Scott album suggestion to heart. While many of us here are "grumpy old men" (not sure if I qualify at 51 but that is beside the point) there is a solid foundation for suggesting that from seasoned collectors. There are a couple reasons:
1. You simply learn more poring through books. You also learn how to "use" the catalog itself. Might sound sort of odd; but there is almost another language in Scott (and other reference material of course) catalogs that you pick up after years (or decades in many cases.) Just my two cents; but it requires a bit of work sometimes, but it makes you look for answers in many instances, and thus you learn things rather than just having answers handed to you. Many times you will learn something that you were not even looking for, but knowledge is never bad!
2. Makes it much easier to NOT get ripped off. Very short example: To seller: "I see you listed these as "rare" Scott 12345. Why are they rare? My catalog shows a price of $2.00 for the set. Just an example, but if you are new to philately, catalogs provide at least a basis for you to look at a listing, bounce it off your catalog and make a much better-informed decision.
3. Sometimes it is just plain fun to try to find what you have in catalogs. Just a personal example; but I've been amassing stamps from Mauritania as stuff to add to orders to justify shipping costs for about a year. Last weekend, sat down after printing out the Steiner pages and just went to town finding out what went where. Spent a couple hours just going "what the heck is this?" with quite a few stamps. Now I know a lot more about Mauritanian stamps; but am of course not an expert.
4. The last thing: (And again, maybe a personal/old-school idea or concept) but stamps are physical items that are both historic in some way/shape/form but also real printed paper; and with that paper, it just seems like a paper book connects me more to the stamps themselves. Of course, every collector is free to and should collect and identify any way that they get enjoyment from the hobby; that is the ultimate goal. But...I'd bet you will have more fun with a Scott catalog than looking online. Just a guess.
All that said, I'll give you a 2012 Scott Specialized if you want it. Shipping on me. You'll need to get to 50 posts (or is it 100?) before you can contact me with a PO box or address, but if it helps a collector gain or keep interest, all the better. |
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I have a complete set of Scott including the Specialized and Classic but I will use an app and online source to identify stamps most of the time. It is much easier than paging through an incompletely illustrated catalog.
For many US collectors, the Mystic Stamp web site is good for US stamps information and you can get a free printed Mystic catalog if you do not mind getting a lot of mailing, |
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