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Bullseye And Socked On Nose Cancels

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Posted 02/10/2011   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aaaah a "squared circle" from Liverpool...beautiful
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Posted 02/10/2011   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Probably belongs in "postmarks"
An ugly, but in my experience a rare
SOTN CDS from early Russia 1890

First russian of this era I have been able to read
(excepting the town)


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Posted 02/10/2011   10:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, please tell me about "squared circle". This piece has just been sitting in a glassine duplicates envelope for years collecting dust at my house, but I am intrigued at by my limitless ignorance when it comes to a hobby that I love to learn about, and I do learn that's what makes it such a hobby!
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Posted 02/11/2011   03:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A thread that has an explanation of squared circle postmarks from Canada to give you a start on the idea.

https://goscf.com/t/12603#113803
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Posted 02/11/2011   05:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Puzzler.
Jeff nothing special, I just love 'em,
I like "squared circle" and "hooded" cancels,
they represent a time when the post was in
its infancy in England.

BTW just cool it :)
no need to race to know everything,
when you do it will be boring.
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Edited by rod222 - 02/11/2011 05:37 am
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Posted 02/11/2011   05:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Takes all the mystery out of life. It's fun to discover new things.
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Posted 02/11/2011   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have countries of history that I read (European History right now 0-1400 A.D.). I have at least 4 books going all the time (one of theme has to be easy reading for bed though). I love my genealogy, my music, and my stamp collecting. I am baffled by the amount of knowledge that is needed to understand what each of you expounds about, whether it is a squared circle or a special Indian local postmark, or differences in watermark, or being able to know where on a sheet that 1c Franklin was printed. No need to worry, I can learn forever and only begin to realize how little I know. - I just love the interaction of being able to learn together.
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Posted 02/11/2011   10:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information puzzler. In reading the other thread, I saw that there is a catalog for squared circles of Canada. Is that true for other countries as well? - Jeff ... I also saw the discussion on hooded cancels - now I know
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Edited by jhlovell - 02/11/2011 10:49 am
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Posted 02/11/2011   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here one I received recently.
Good to see some postal staff/companies keeping the standards up.

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Posted 02/11/2011   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scouter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there a difference between "bulls-eye" and "sock on the nose" or is it two terms for the same event.
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Posted 02/11/2011   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I havn't studied cancels yet but the more I read the more I need to. Here is a group of oldies. Not sure what means what . The toronto cancel on the jubilee seems to be extremely large . Was that a standard oversize for parcels or just the size for the time frame.
Scouter the bullseye is like the one on the 10c small queen in the picture. SON "socked on nose" is term for any cancel that is pretty well dead center on the stamp. Hope that helps.
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Edited by nitrolures - 02/11/2011 11:51 am
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Posted 02/11/2011   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Love those double headed eagles Rod, always have, especially when I see them in heraldic arms.
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Posted 02/11/2011   1:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had thought that bullseye was used mostly in the US and meant the same thing as socked on the nose, that is a centered cancel on a stamp.

The 10c small Queen could be called a bullseye but I know it more as a target cancel. Could just be my lack of knowledge (there is so much to learn) but I think it may be more a regional preference for certain names over others.

Left to right yours are the obilterator part (with numeral inside) of a duplex cancel (the other part being the circular date stamp part), then two carved-in-cork cork fancy cancels, then a two-ring numeral cancel (each number corresponding to a certain city), the target cancel, an obliterator with letter inside (probably a better name for this that I haven't learned yet) (these types may be struck separately (have their own cancelling device) instead of being attached to the circular date stamp duplex type, not sure), a 3-ring cancel which I know has a separate name but I forget it, and on the map another type of duplex obliterator with numeral with the circle just showing to the side.

I wonder if there is a web site or even a thread on here that explains what each cancel is called. And in different languages too would be excellent. And alternate names for them.

Oh, on the 2-ring numeral cancel the 11 is Fredericton, New Brunswick. Not really rare but a nice centered clear strike. Some collect these cancels. Rated for their rarity on Large Queens and then on Small Queens in the Unitrade.
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Posted 02/11/2011   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler you may be 100% correct .. My assumption was target and bullseye (center of target ) were refering to same . I think learning cancels is going to be harder than college accounting. At least back in college I drank!
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Posted 02/11/2011   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scouter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for clarifying - it's easy to think Bulls-Eye with the target cancel. But I too suspected they were one and the same.
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