Czechoslovakia : ID

These "Rainbow" Postmarks, occurred on Rail Parcel Freight Cards.

Would we consider these "Fiscal" cancels, or Postmarks?
Thanks.

In Polish philately they are considered Postmarks. They were used in the post-WWI years in the southern section of Poland, a hold-over from the Austrian postal era. They were used on Postal Money orders where typically you would have 3-4 stamps down the right-hand side as in this example from Makow -



Rather than having to make 3 or 4 strikes of a regular canceller, curved, elongated cancellers were made up so that only one strike was needed. I've made a mock-up to show what they would look like-


Here's a couple of partial strikes from Bielitz & Drohobycz

Super Rick,
thanks for your time spent.
I got that horribly wrong, I was liking them to some Hungarian cards.

I have about 50-60 mutilated cards, can you confirm their description please?
Would you know Bohemia and Moravia as well?



Bohemia and Moravia examples.

Yep, they're all money orders, they all had similar formats.

Lovely examples of the long cancellations on those Czech ones, I've only ever seen illustrations of complete Polish ones, plus the partial strikes I have.

Not sure about the Czech & Bohemian ones, but all used Polish money orders were obtained dubiously. They were kept by the Post Office for a certain length of time (I believe it was 7 years, but don't quote me} & then they were meant to be disposed off at the local rubbish tip. Thanks to collusion between some rubbish tip operators & stamp dealers some of this material survived & in some cases this is the only source for genuinely postally used copies of the early Polish issues.

Great information, Rick. Thanks.

Those cards also explain a query I had on Czech stamp postmarks,
the boxed 1 over 68 for example.

In the area named " ?esne razitko", I have seen those marks on Czech stamps,
and wondered what they were.

"Okresne Razitko" = "District stamp"

Nice page on Eastern Silesia with illustrations of some money orders

http://czechphilatelist.tripod.com/snejdarek/

rod222 - The Post Office keeps used money orders, parcel dispatch forms, etc. for a prescribed number of years and then shreds them after separating parts bearing postage stamps (like those of yours) to be sold by the weight to stamp collectors.

Your first image shows a set of 3 Money Order cuttings with postal district stamps in black (Okresné razítko). Items 1 and 3 bear no postage stamps because sent free of charge by Government institutions as their official rubber stamps prove. Also, see the rubber stamp Vec úradná poštovného prostá = Official - free of postage.

Your second image shows two Parcel Dispatch Form cuttings treated in the same way.

Thank you Rick,
Thank you Florian.

So I have 47 Parcel Despatch Fragments, (Come printed in Blue or Black)

29 Money Order Fragments
Sliding scale of impost dues depending on currency amount.
Postage stamp values on my fragments vary 1k to 10k
These forms attract "postage dues" for underpayment
I have 4 or 5 with dues attached.

These are fabulous source of clear crisp Postmarks.

I have 4 other designs, would you care to confirm identity of these please?
So I can prepare my album pages

First a fragment showing sliding scale of stamp charges (Appears the stamp has fallen off)

4 other unknown varieties.

Hi, rod222

Image 1 - Parcel Dispatch form (see Lot 1281 or the last item of Lot 1285 on http://www.burda-auction.com/cz/pis...e-tiskopisy/ ) Note Poplatky pøi dodání: = Fees on delivery: doplatné = postage due, doruèné - návìštné a místní pøíplatek = delivery charge - notice charge and local extra charge, úložné = storage fee, jiné poplatky = other fees.

Image 2 - Money Order form for official use between post offices. This one was posted from Poštovní úøad Praha 10 Hrad = Post Office Prague 10 Castle carrying both its seal and CDS plus a rubber stamp "Služebnì" = "Official" as well as File Number "Èj. 3395/...- 34". The last two digits will stand for year 1934, not seen in the CDS. Part of the address reads "...¡ad" = "Poštovní úøad".

Image 3 - Postgutkarte - Prùvodka k poštovnímu zboží = Goods Parcel Dispatch form (see Lot 1286 on http://www.burda-auction.com/cz/pis...e-tiskopisy/ showing Money order form, C.O.D. form, and Goods Parcel Dispatch form). Goods Parcel Dispatch forms served for posting more than one parcel at the same time by businesses to one and the same addressee at a reduced rate. Note that the two of your cuttings present the same business as sender and carry the same CDSs as well as the same postage stamp.

Image 4 - C.O.D. Parcel Dispatch form.

Regards,

Florián

Hi florian,
wonderful !
Let's hope your words on my album page will be read by some collector, 50 years hence, and enjoyed.
Thank you.

Great! You are welcome.

Glad to have been able to be of some help thanks to images found on the net because these topics are outside my field as I am primarily interested in W/W engraved stamps as works of art and, secondly, in postal history conceived of as memorable messages, once carried by postmen in their bags, documenting the times my kith and kin as well as myself have gone through.

Hello Florian.
I would like to know your opinion regarding this unusual error on 1944 stamp Mi:136 where the back gumm side has a mirror image of Mi:134. The stamp is verified original and the back image of Mi:134 is verified as original printer/machine set-off ( NOT wet sheet set-off). thanks

Mi136 front side


Mi136 gumm side ( with machine set-off of Mi134)