Giori - De LA Rue - Koenig & Bauer

More about the Jumelle can be read in the excellent series of Dummy Stamps by Glenn Morgan:




I hope Glenn will add more to this!

Yes, it is the 1961 booklet and it does mention some printing problems and errors.

This is the first Argentinian stamp printed by the Giori
press as mentioned in the first post of this thread.

I was just going through the Collecting by Engravers thread and
saw this beautiful nethryk scan of Argentina Scott 585.

Florian posted in another thread the following.



There is always the mention of Giori presses yet the fact is that the actual presses where manufactured
by Koenig & Bauer based on the Giori process.

From KBA-NotaSys SA http://www.kba-notasys.com/company/history/





See the first post in this thread also and look what
name is on the press.

I wonder if anyone can please tell me where this dummy stamp might have been printed? Logic says maybe Lausanne, home to DLRG, but the designer and engraver are, I understand, Austrian or maybe German.

The Dummy Stamp
Designer:Konrad Gessner.
Engraver:Alfred Fischer.
Printer:Unknown.
Issued: Circa 1968, apparently (not confirmed).
Process:Direct and indirect* intaglio.
Press:A DLRG intaglio press.
* Also known as offset intaglio due to the use of a blanket to temporarily hold inks before transferring them to the substrate

I have identified the design as being a woodblock entitled "St Christopher Carrying the Infant Jesus", by Albrecht Durer in 1511.

Any help whatsoever appreciated! And does anyone know of any other DLRG dummy designs, please?

GLENN

65170 - Glenn, trying to help and using my basic German, this is what I have managed to Google:

http://www.kosel.com/de/lx/G/index.htm
Gessner, Prof. Karl Österreichischer Briefmarkenkünstler, geboren am 31. Mai 1909 in Wien.

http://www.peter-diem.at/History/briefmarken.htm
Offenbar war es also bisher nur Vorarlberg, das sein Landeswappen auf keiner eigenen Marke vorfinden kann. Doch das Ländle mag sich trösten: zusammen mit den Wappen aller anderen Bundesländer erscheint das Montfort'sche Banner richtig dargestellt im Gedenkblock "1000 Jahre Österreich", der am 25. Oktober 1976 ausgegeben wurde. An der Zeichnung der Landeswappen und des Bundeswappens von Karl Gessner, einem Lithographieexperten der Staatsdruckerei, der schon die FIS-Serie 1936 nach Fotos geschaffen hatte, ist nichts auszusetzen.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briefm...rnement_1942
600 Jahre Stadt Lublin Entwurf K. Gessner

http://austria-forum.org/af/Wissens..._Bodenkultur
Das vorliegende Markenmotiv zeigt das anläßlich der Hundertjahrfeier entstandene viergeteilte Wappen der Hochschule. Es wurde von Karl Geßner, einem Grafiker der Staatsdruckerei, geschaffen.

Prof. Karl Gessner also designed a number of stamps for Liechtenstein, such as the 30 Rp. 1973 Madonna, 10 Fr. 1974 Duke & Duchess, 1 Fr. 1977 Rubens, printed by Österreichische Staatsdruckerei, Wien combining photogravure/engraving.


Prof. Alfred Fischer (1926 - )

https://goscf.com/t/9106&whichpage=28#154815
lithograving's post of 07/26/2011 3:00 pm
Alfred Fischer's first engraved stamp was issued in 1965 and his last in 1980. In between he did some fine work.

http://www.kosel.com/de/lx/S/ Kosel - Lexikon für Sammler
Headword:
Sinawehl, Peter Peter Sinawehl wurde 1948 in Wien geboren und besuchte die graphische Berufsschule als Lithograph. Seit 1963 ist er in der Österreichischen Staatsdruckerei als Wertzeichenlithograph tätig, wo er bei Prof. Alfred Fischer sämliche Techniken von Albrecht Dürer bis Alois Senefelder erlernte. ...


So much so far if this can be of any help to you.

Florian: Many thanks for the time that you spent on my query. I am a big fan of Alfred Fischer's work.

I wonder whether the dummy stamp may be a production of the Staatsdruckerei, Austria? Although I have yet to ascertain whether they were a user of a DLRG supplied press. I understand that the Bureau of Engraving and Printing USA was the first to buy a DLRG press designed specifically for web-printing of postage stamps and that was around 1975, so perhaps the dealer-quoted date of c1968 is too early for the sample!

Right, am now off to London to see Martin Morck, the stamp engraver, at lunchtime today at Europhilex. GLENN

65170 - Glenn, my pleasure.

lithograving's post of 11/30/2011 6:07 pm presents an image of a 1967 Austrian photogravure / recess stamp produced jointly by the designer Karl Gessner and the engraver Alfred Fischer. See https://goscf.com/t/20571&whichpage=2

Another design by Karl Gessner, based on Albrecht Dürer's work "Jesus as Redeemer", but engraved by A. Nefe, was produced by photogravure and engraving in 1971. See Stanley Gibbons AT 1629.

Have a great time at Europhilex.

Florian

Glenn,

this Austrian dummy stamp was printed by the "OeSd" in direct recess + photogravure!?

groetjes, Rein

In the late 50s the Chilean Mint acquired a De La Rue press-Giori process, mainly for the printing of banknotes.
But some stamps were printed with it too

The "Dummy" stamp has at least 4 colors, however I find the overall execution to be blurry and smudgy. Kind of like a an old Children's book illustration.