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Posted 07/07/2014   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add apastuszak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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@apastuszak... Why don't you simply convert the contents of Your PDF as image/graphics? That way the fonts won't be embedded... The downside is naturally that the PDF contents will become non-editable.

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Two issues:

1. The font license has to allow me to convert to outlines. In reality, I could convert to outlines and no one would know.
2. Converting to outlines makes the font lose it's hinting information, which leads to inferior printing at smaller point sizes.

I might go this route.
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Posted 07/07/2014   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, got it apastuszak. Many thanks.

Terry
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Would the subsequent printing be better if you used Adobe InDesign or Illustrator for the page make up?

Terry

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Posted 07/07/2014   6:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add apastuszak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Would the subsequent printing be better if you used Adobe InDesign or Illustrator for the page make up?

Terry


I don't know. I made 2 PDFs. One with the font embedded. One with the font outlined. I printed both out on my LaserJet 4200 B&W printer. I noticed a slight difference between the two printouts, with the embedded fonts being superior.

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Posted 07/08/2014   02:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi apastuszak

From reading on this yesterday, I gather that Adobe Photoshop, being essentially image handling software, produces letter forms that are pixilated at whatever image resolution is selected. Adobe illustrator and InDesign will produce letter forms that are vectored and will have sharper, crisper edges.

I also came across this, which might be of interest to you..

Terry

http://www.claudiamccue.com/2012/08...n-photoshop/
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Posted 07/08/2014   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add apastuszak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Hi apastuszak

From reading on this yesterday, I gather that Adobe Photoshop, being essentially image handling software, produces letter forms that are pixilated at whatever image resolution is selected. Adobe illustrator and InDesign will produce letter forms that are vectored and will have sharper, crisper edges.

I also came across this, which might be of interest to you..

Terry


Pretty much. If I wanted to release my pages, as TIFF or PNG files to get around font licensing issues, I'd have to generate 1200 dpi files, which would be gigantic.
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Posted 07/08/2014   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, indeed they would be. I scan all my finished artwork/photographic images at either 720dpi or 1200dpi which produces very large image files.

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I don't know. I made 2 PDFs. One with the font embedded. One with the font outlined. I printed both out on my LaserJet 4200 B&W printer. I noticed a slight difference between the two printouts, with the embedded fonts being superior.


I suspect the reason your output differs is because the way your printer handles postscript files. The 4200 is quite an old printer, possibly using a different driver will help your output problem.

I still think a different font would solve all your problems. I notice on your pages it looks like you use Helvetica or Arial family. You could use any of these as a substitute:

Roboto
Open Sans
Source Sans Pro
PT Sans
Droid Sans

All are open source.

If as in your Ireland pages, you are needing the Celtic font, I would just outline it and leave it as a graphic element.

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Posted 07/08/2014   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add apastuszak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I got an email back from Linotype telling me I can embed one of their fonts and not pay an additional license. The font I used was Neue Haas Grotesk, which I absolutely love.

Someone took Helvetica and redid it to match how the font used to look before photo typesetting came along. If you take a document and type a phrase in Helvetica Bold at 18pt. and then the same phrase in Neue Haas Grotesk Bold Display at 18 pt., you'll see a difference.

http://www.fontbureau.com/nhg/

Then go Google Image Search Coca Cola ads from the 60s and early 70s and you'll see that Neue Haas Grotesk matches the old print ad much better than Helvetica does. Those old ads were done in Helvetica.

The Celtic font is something freeware I found on the Internet. It matches the font Ireland uses on it's postage when the spell out Ireland in gaelic (Eire).
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