Album Is Getting Into Some Serious Money

There are many USA front of the book classic and Washington/Franklin stamps with some good starts on other sets.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14160955653...RK:MEBIDX:IT

Thinking to buy...
I was going to go $136.00 around 10% value I real rough guessed
or
I was going to go $179.00 around 12.5%
or
I was thinking potential to go around $358.00 at 25% I rough guessed.

It is at $179.00 now I am out but think it is still worth more 5 hours to go in the auction- will be fun to see what it ends at 28 bids so far, maybe a battle brewing.

How do you value this @ $1360.00???

What is the valuable stamp here???
64a....nope???

25c per stamp x each???

Never, EVER go by written notes on album pages in ebay collections. More than one seller just makes crap up in hopes of juicing the sale (I'm not saying this seller does this, in fact I have purchased from him without issue). Never assume that the stamps are what they are claimed to be, especially high-dollar items that have a similar appearance to cheap stamps where in-hand examination is required.

It's not a bad collection overall for someone starting out or looking to break down into singles, but personally I would not push past where it currently is.

I may be cynical but you appear to be promoting/advertising this sale.

My thoughts are that the bidders are looking at quantity over quality. There might be a few surprises in there, but not worth $180 or so. I'm not bidding.

Sold for $305

Too much.

Just a wee bit ...


I happen to believe that posts like this serve a valuable purpose. For the novice collector and those who may have inhertied a collection, it can set expectations for what an average collection might sell for.

It can also serve as a teaching moment when you see something sell for more than expected. Although I don't personally see anything worthy of such a high bid, someone else must have. I hope to see an explanation myself ...

Brian

Pfft Kevin killjoy,get some glasses there are plenty of good stamps there going by catalog and figuring 10%, 25% to make some kind of final bid decision, you do it your way I do it my way and I was exactly on, it sold for $305.00 right around just what I figured.

revenuecollector- I never went by their penciled in prices I got out the books and figured out my own prices from the catalog and then did only a fraction of the catalog. Would not push pass where it currently is?? UH didn't I say I had stopped there ha can't get one by you, great minds think alike.

partime-? pfft no just looked at all the washington/franklins and thought there were a lot where some albums are sparse and I knew this was not a $60-$90.00 album and it was going to go higher. Look around many bring ebay items in here to share and watch the fun, it is not unique here, to not notice that is.

rileysen- yep agree 100% how else we supposed to make bids if we don't do our own analyzing if I waited for kevin's assessment of 25cents a stamp I would never buy anything let alone any of his over priced stamps ha! (just kidding kevin we know your the expert here and know it all, you go dude you rock always look forward to you trolling me ha J?K man we love you)

Get over it dudes I priced it just as you do catalog and a percentage, in fact I used many different percentages to get an idea what it would sell for and it went for $305.00 in 33 bids quite the exciting auction to watch and just as I predicted it would go, next time stick your neck out make your own educated guess and watch the comments always entertaining, ha.

Hey kevin here is how it works Scott #239 Columbian $0.30, catalog used $90.00 25% would be $22.50. On ebay the cheapest one I found is $15.00 buy it now right in the realm of buy it and my method of figuring what to buy at.

This is just a method it isn't what I buy exactly at on any given auction just a guide a gauge a rough rough guess is that ok with you.

There are four blackjacks, at your wisdum they would go for a buck??? add the columbian a buck twenty five hahahah ya right. your so funny. I suppose all those pan american are only $0.25c too pffft. How about that C1 airmail just junk not worthy of two bits come on man. Read everything again kevin I said it was a guess and stop jerking my chain.

Larry,

Before pffting at people, did you consider the possibility that a lot of the W-Fs and some of the 19thc classics that are in spaces for which you calculated catalogue value might be misidentified, in the wrong spaces? You'd have to deduct about 1/2 of your overall cv, in my estimation, to allow for disappointments along those lines. That's the basis for commenters here estimating the retail value at about half what you estimated.

That it sold for $300 might mean that $300 is a reasonable, market-set value or it might mean that a buyer got snookered. One sale alone does not set market value. People do overpay. Of course, those of us skeptics might be wrong and might miss out on a good deal. What a number of us are thinking is, "Yes, this might be worth $300.00. But the only way to know for sure is to buy it and examine all the putatively "better" stamps to see if they are mounted in the correct spaces. If others want to take that risk, that's fine. I don't." Being a skeptic like that might mean we lose out on a "deal." Then again, it might not.

Bidding is a matter of "might/might not." Not really something over which to "pfft" or admonish people to "get over it dudes."

Just sayin'

heironymus- nothing stopping you from making your own decisions and bid or not.

There are many stamps there not mis identified or not easily mis identified, columbians, airmail,pan american etc etc did you look at the album?

Kevin seems to love to jump on my posts he deserves a pffft lol ha terse, crass brevity uniquely his, in this case I 100% disagree with his nose turned up approach at these stamps. (God love em no one else will- haha j/k)

What makes you think I stopped at 1/2 catalog did you even read my posts here I used many percentages 10% 12% 25%, I think I covered it dude.(apologies using my own words pfft and dude-if we ping on them may as well pick out any other words in my posts that meet disapproval I wouldn't want to convey my own thoughts or be an individual lets all talk exactly alike- where do I buy that book)

I would have taken the risk on this at a reasonable price "FOR ME" using my pricing method but I didn't bite after the $179.00 bid, I would have enjoyed it in my hands to see if the stamps "WERE" in the right places and genuine, "That is the fun of it"

Larry,

Terseness and brevity from those who disagree with you is different from mockery. You mock those with whom you disagree. This is not the first time. You even edited your pfft post to make it more mocking than it originally was.

You perceive those who disagree with you as "jumping on" you, which perception you use to justify your own rudeness.

LarryBruce, I'll be brief and to the point. Start being more respectful or find another forum.

Regardless of the follow up comments, I stand by my original statement that even $180 was too much. I am not at all happy with the quality of the items, and even the higher catalog value ones were well off center, missing perfs, bent, etc. I might throw together a similar books with my seconds (or thirds) and see what happens.

Larry, calling random people "dude" is very disrespectful unless you happen to be a teenager, and I hardly think any of us are. That, combined with your attitude towards people with differing opinions puts people off from replying to you in the future.

The problem with gauging true value on a collection like this are myriad:

1. You have no idea how many items have unseen faults, so you have to be very conservative in assessing value.

2. Much of the presumed value in this collection is in areas where you cannot make determinations based upon the auction pictures: Washington-franklins (perfs and watermarks); Banknotes (secret marks and paper types), 1850s-1860s issues (color variations and grills).

To pay $300 for a collection like this, personally I would want it to have at least $3,000 of usable Scott catalog value after faults and misID's are factored in.

Too risky for me. If you like it, then enjoy.

Goes both ways on rudeness, you want to talk stamps or you want to go psych on me analyzing how I post? Ha mockery yes it has existed on this board.

We are not practicing one way communication here, I post they analyze, what? am I to shut up then and not comment on their posts? weird idea. No we practice two way communication here, you talk, I talk, you talk and so on, if you don't like the way I talk that is one thing but don't try to put words in my mouth or tell me how to say something, I am not you, and I do not try to talk adult to child like some here no I talk adult to adult, sorry am I being rude to you??

Hey what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Theirs is terse and brevity and mine is mocking how obtuse can you get jeeez man we were talking about this album not your personality conflict with how I post.

I do not believe my entire posts were mocking I was injecting valid points about this album you seemed to have missed and only seem to feel is your duty to ping on how I put things what next a full scan of my punctuation, spelling etc come on if my post wasn't directed at you why you even discussing or in your case not discussing this topic.

hey dude anyone can change and add or take away from their posts your pointing it out is kinda moot happens all the time not a crime here or is it now.