Hard One To ID

Hi, I try to find more info on this Hungary 5k Crown of St-Stephen blue postal stationary stamp, all I found was the 2 or 3k in an auction without much explanations. I'm not looking for a price, but more a description to put on an album page, I look in GB, , Scott and Michel, nothing. I guess in German Postal Stationary is "Ganzsachen"

May we see the whole cover? I think it would help.

So far I've only seen the blue 5k on post cards and postal money orders.

That'S the hole cover

You mean that that is all you have of it?

A photo of the entirety of the cover or postcard could help, as well as the measurements (in millimeters).

I may be of some assistance.

Regards,
Stampalotapus

Area66, is the date readable on that piece?

Peter

Cursory look through Michel Ganzsachen-Europa bis 1960 (2008) the only 5Kr blue that I was able to find "Postanweisugen" (Money Order) section page 824...



I hope this proves of some assistance.

Regards,
Stampalotapus

Their not so much to analyse, this seem a regular common envelope stamps, date 1918. cancel BERETTYÓ - ÚJFALU like the rest of the series, I found quite few 2 and 3 k on Google, but no 5k blue .. the only thing I want is if someone have a reference to Hungarian stationary it's on envelope paper not postcard. How come no catalogue mention Hungary stationary.


I just have my phone for now, so this is the complete piece, no 1200 dpi , and no for measurement and ID the postmark. How come no catalogue mention Hungary stationary. I check Tellier, GB, Scott and Michel.

Thanks stampalotapus I will check tomorrow at home I do have a Scott at work but my Michel is at home

It's a litho in 1874 it was the release of the engraved regular stamp and the litho come only in 1888 . According of this Michel entry they was 1881 . Did they mention engraved or litho? I'm not comfortable with German

There's always "Higgins & Gage World Postal Stationery Catalogue."

It appears that the paper is pink.

H&G 1967, again I can only find 5 Kr in blue for postal stationary is on Money Order "J" category; dependent on the watermark your item can be one of six (being that it is a cut square), as follows...

1876. #9, 5 and 6 in different color with watermark as # 9 (which is MAGYAR KIR in an arch and POSTA horizontally below). Paper is pink (as your photo) to lilac.
12. 5Kr, Hungarian .50 Mint .25 used
13. 5Kr, Croatian 1.50 Mint .50 used
14. 5Kr, Italian 1.50c Mint .50 used

1876. Same as previous issue with watermark MAGYAR KIR POSTA in one line. Paper is pink (again as your photo) to lilac.
14. 5Kr, Hungarian .50 Mint .25 used
15. 5Kr, Croatian .75 Mint .25 used
16. 5Kr, Italian 1.25 Mint .50 used

I hope that this proves helpful.

Regards,
Stampalotapus

Ok thanks Very very helpful I will Check the watermark. Another book I will keep an eye on it but I don't really like stationary so I will not pay to much.

Look at what I found on Google, it's look like a real cover in the middle of the stamps, it's also a stationary .

Actually the Orange one on the last post was on ebay, I purchase it. So next think I know I will be buying a Michel Ganzsachen-Europa and some H&G , I never been attracted by stationary before. You gone cost me guys ... lol I love reference book.

Sorry about the expense the publications will pose, Postal Stationary is contagious.

Regards,
Stampalotapus