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The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

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Posted 11/29/2017   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Offices in the Turkish Empire ~ Austria ~ Postage Dues.

More in-depth study here....
https://goscf.com/t/57575#57575 br /

1902
Steiner Page 14.

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Posted 11/30/2017   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Typical Sheet Layout : 6 x 7 =42 Stamps.

Sc#192 1986 November 17th
Development Projects : Housing.

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Posted 11/30/2017   12:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Larger Format Sheets 10 x 10 = 100 stamps.
Overprinted 1987
Sc#198 10 tl

Bella Paise Abbey, Kyrenia.

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Posted 11/30/2017   01:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Offices in the Turkish Empire ~ Austria

1888
Steiner Page 11.

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Posted 11/30/2017   05:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Austrian Post in the Levant.

Sc#28 1892 10pi on 1 gulden Blue surcharge.

Recess printed from anaglyptically engraved plates.

Typographically overprinted at the Austrian State printing Works, Vienna.
Granite paper.
Watermarked " K . K. Briefmarken" (SG states Unwmkd)

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Edited by rod222 - 11/30/2017 05:10 am
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Posted 11/30/2017   05:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice page Rod.

I particularly like the CONSTANTINOPOLI (Austrian Lloyd) and TREBISONDA postmarks.
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Posted 11/30/2017   06:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Goodness me, Nigel.
Was searching through the known 90 post offices of the Austrian Levant,
Spent fruitless hours searching. Sheesh.

So TREBISONDA .....Thanks heaps.

I am hopeless on these Postmarks.

So there would exist an Album Page, that no one can pre-design,
The early stamps of Austria, no indication of the Levant apart from the Postmark.
I'll have to dig out my early Austria. .

Armstrong : "It was in the year 1748 that the Austrian Post Office in Constantinople was removed from the Embassy, to a separate building and established on a regular basis, with a uniform tariff for all correspondence conveyed over its courier lines. "




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The early stamps of Austria, no indication of the Levant apart from the Postmark.


Rod,

Not sure if this is what you're referring to, but in Germany collecting there are a couple terms for this -- (1) Vorläufer, meaning stamps of the mother country used as valid postage before the introduction of local postage and (2) Mitläufer, meaning stamps of the mother country used as valid postage after the introduction of local postage. In both cases, the only way to differentiate them from postage used in the mother country is the postmark. The terms translate roughly as "forerunners".

I don't have a hard copy of Michel's Austria Specialized, but I do have access to Michel's online catalog. They only list two sets of Vorläufer for Austrian Post in the Levant:

MiNr V 14 - V 18 -- 1863 stamps in soldi currency (Lombardei & Venetien MiNr 14-18), eagle drawing, perf comb 14, used by the Austrian post office in the Levant.

MiNr V 19 - V 23 -- Lombardei & Venetien MiNr 19-23, perf comb 9, used by the Austrian post office in the Levant.

You can see what prices they're currently bringing at the German auction houses here.
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Posted 11/30/2017   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Postmaster,
thank you for that synopsis, beautifully explained.

After posting, and re-reading my literature last evening, I realised I had made a mistake.


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MiNr V 14 - V 18 -- 1863 stamps in soldi currency (Lombardei & Venetien MiNr 14-18), eagle drawing, perf comb 14, used by the Austrian post office in the Levant.


Yes that's it.

I'll print your post on one of my personal pages for clarification.

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WANTED TO BUY.

Monograph:
"Die Levante und deren Posten" A.E. Glasewald 1915

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Posted 11/30/2017   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Fabulous link there, Postmaster.

Austrian Foreign Post Offices
Roumania : GIURGEWO
Opened 2nd February 1855. Closed 1869

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Posted 11/30/2017   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

Reference the Glasewald monograph, I'm not finding it anywhere on the Internet, either for free or purchase. However, there may be another way to get your hands on a copy.

The big German philatelic society is the Bund Deutscher Philatelisten e.V., or BDPh. They have a study group for this area called the Arbeitsgemeinschaft Osmanisches Reich / Türkei e.V. (Ottoman Empire / Turkey Working Group, or AROS). They have a large library of reference materials (see PDF here), including that monograph, and they will loan out materials --


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In the case of literature orders by members from other countries, the desired titles can be delivered in limited quantities for reimbursement as photocopies for personal use. The latter also applies to a limited extent to interested non-members.


So, if you were to contact them, they might allow you to purchase a photocopy for personal use, even as a non-member. Or they almost certainly would if you were a member. Membership info is here -- €55/year if a member of a Fédération Internationale de Philatélie associated organization (Australian Philatelic Federation, American Philatelic Society, etc.), €75/year if not.

If you want to read any of their info, you can run it through Google Translate to get most of it, though for the large PDFs you might have to copy and paste bits at a time.
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Once again, thank you very much Postmaster, I'll chase that up and let you know the result.

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Offices in the Turkish Empire~ Austria.

Shining the spotlight on Sc#54 1908.

Austrian Post Office, Constantinople 1915.



Sc#54 1908 2 piastres Blue on Grey, Emperor Francis Joseph l



July 15th 1908
New Issues.

(The Levant stamps of the former issues would be exchanged for the new stamps until the end of 1908)

On the values of 2 piastres and upward (Line engraved) the aging monarch Emperor Francis Joseph l is portrayed,
(60th year of reign) three quarter length, wearing the order of the Golden Fleece.

The designs were the work of Professor Kolman Moser, and the dies were engraved by Ferdinand Schirnboeck, the stamps being printed as before at the State Printing Works, Vienna, the perforation gauging uniformly 12½.

The so-called variety of the 1 Piastre value on white instead of bluish paper is believed to be a chemical changeling ( Armstrong )

Order of the Golden Fleece (wiki)
The Order of the Golden Fleece was established on 10 January 1430, by Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy, in celebration of the prosperous and wealthy domains united in his person that ran from Flanders to Switzerland. It is restricted to a limited number of knights, initially 24 but increased to 30 in 1433, and 50 in 1516, plus the sovereign.

The Order's first King of Arms was Jean Le Fèvre de Saint-Remy. It received further privileges unusual to any order of knighthood: the sovereign undertook to consult the order before going to war; all disputes between the knights were to be settled by the order; at each chapter the deeds of each knight were held in review, and punishments and admonitions were dealt out to offenders, and to this the sovereign was expressly subject; the knights could claim as of right to be tried by their fellows on charges of rebellion, heresy and treason, and Charles V conferred on the order exclusive jurisdiction over all crimes committed by the knights; the arrest of the offender had to be by warrant signed by at least six knights, and during the process of charge and trial he remained not in prison but in the gentle custody of his fellow knights.

The order, conceived in an ecclesiastical spirit in which mass and obsequies were prominent and the knights were seated in choirstalls like canons, was explicitly denied to heretics, and so became an exclusively Catholic honour during the Reformation. The officers of the order were the chancellor, the treasurer, the registrar, and the King of Arms, or herald, "Toison d'Or".
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Offices in the Turkish Empire~Austria.

1907
Steiner Page 13.

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Posted 11/30/2017   8:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Austrian Levant.

Seek opinions on varnish bars, please.
Are these stamps damaged via soaking?

Scans of examples, watermark fluid in a polypropylene envelope. (easy to scan, and lasts for 10 minutes without evaporation)
(lines are not threads but perimeters of the fluid)

Anyone agree, bottom 3 are varnish bars?
Any tips / advice on identifying?
...or do you wait for extreme examples.

Click image to enlarge.


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Quote:
Anyone agree, bottom 3 are varnish bars?


Rod - Yes, 1 & 3 for sure, strong probability for 2.

Yes, extreme examples are for sure.

I sometimes have more trouble determining unvarnished specimens, because I not uncommonly see some speckles on the surface, and then wonder if it is a weak varnished specimen.

I wish there was a great way to determine the varnish bars other than holding them up at an angle with the light.

It is possible that a binocular (stereo) microscope might give information, as it is great for examining surfaces. But I haven't done enough with the binocular (stereo) microscope and varnish bar specimens to know if it would be really helpful.
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