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Ebay Stamp Sales Totals Last 90 Days

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Posted 01/23/2017   1:36 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add KRelyea to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
We have been talking about the importance of stamp sales to ebay but ebay does not make it easy to see what the total sales actually are. I sat down and spent a couple hours teasing out the data and it is presented below. This data shows the total number of sales and the total $ sales in the last 90 days broken down by High Level category under stamps. I have no idea if the $34 million in stamp sales over the last 3 months is significant to ebay, I'll let the ebay stockholders among us debate that question.

I have some additional data but I'll post that later.

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Posted 01/23/2017   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add adcaplan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It would be interesting to compare that total to the total from traditional auctions over the same period of time. How significant a chunk of the stamp market is $34.5M? That is about $140M annually. Seems like a large chunk of the stamp market, but maybe I am missing something?
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Posted 01/23/2017   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It would be also very interesting to see a graph or histogram illustrating the distribution of prices.
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Posted 01/23/2017   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to Yahoo financial, ebay has total revenue of 7.91 billion, as reported for the last year. Their gross profit was 6.82 billion and their net income, which I believe is after taxes is 1.86 billion. They obviously are very profitable.
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Posted 01/23/2017   3:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the last quarter of 2016 ebay's total (global) sales were $20.68 billion*. So the $34M in stamp sales noted above would represent about 2/10th of 1% of sales for them.
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*Source: https://www.internetretailer.com/20...e-and-profit = gross value of goods sold. I think the 7.91 billion number that TR mentions above is net revenue.

Edit: The numbers directly above are annual and I just noted that Ken's number is for just the last quarter. So if ebay's quarter was around $5B than the stamps $34 million would represent >1%.

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Posted 01/23/2017   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In terms of everything that they sell, stamps are a drop in the bucket. However, in terms of stamps, they may be the biggest stamps sales venue.
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Posted 01/23/2017   4:20 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will be posting a distribution of prices, that's how I derived the data.
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Posted 01/23/2017   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KRelyea, thanks for doing this, I find it very interesting.
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Posted 01/23/2017   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It would be interesting to compare this to, say, ebay sales of iPads alone.
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Posted 01/23/2017   9:27 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a distribution of items sold and $ sales for the entire stamp category.










The number of items sold doesn't show up well on the Histogram because the range of #s is too large. One thing I see that stands out to me is that low price items make up a large proportion of sale items but contribute a much lower amount of $. As Don pointed out each electronic sale costs the same so clearly the low price item aren't contributing proportionally to ebay profits.

There were 77,000 Ipad sales in the same period with 115 over $1000. The entire Tablet & ereader category had 177,000 sales with 1041 over 1000.

I will post US stamp data shortly.
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Posted 01/24/2017   10:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheRebel1861 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WOW very interesting to say the least. Would be interesting to see individual stamp sales numbers (ex Scott #1) breakdowns on actual sale price ranges but to get that level of detail would probably take years.
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Posted 01/24/2017   10:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are lots of things that can go wrong with a stamp sale, eg, the buyer discovers thins, repairs, etc, that are tough to spot on the best of scans.

Yet, more than one thousand items sold each day for over fifty dollars each.

That can be read as strong evidence that ebay's severe bias towards buyers - one of the earliest & most consistent of ebay policies - is paying off nicely ... for everyone.

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Posted 01/24/2017   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add adcaplan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ikeyPikey how are you coming to that conclusion? Why assume the lots that close over $50 are individual stamps? I would think that a large portion of the lots that close over $50 include multiple items.
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Posted 01/24/2017   10:22 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As promised the following is the data for ebay sales in the last 90 days in the US Stamps category;







A couple weeks ago a poster was complaining about the lack of differentiation in the Germany category. I took a quick look at Germany and France and I think the #s support making Germany and France a separate category similar to GB, Australia and Canada.

Germany had 97,000 items sold and France had 72,000 items, these numbers are larger than many of the other categories and I think could support having their own category.

As for doing this analysis on SC #1 it's not hard to do but I think the problem would be getting "clean" data using the ebay search capability. Any search I try turns up a lot of extraneous data that would have to be cleaned line by line and even then you may be missing many candidates.

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Posted 01/24/2017   7:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
... ikeyPikey how are you coming to that conclusion? Why assume the lots that close over $50 are individual stamps? I would think that a large portion of the lots that close over $50 include multiple items ...


Agreed, but ... they used the word 'items', and I used the word 'items' ... and, as they say, fifty bucks is fifty bucks.

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Posted 01/24/2017   8:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ken,
How are larger lots and collections represented in your numbers? It appears you had to push them into one of the country categories ('US stamps')but lots and collections can contain stamps from other countries.

In your spreadsheet you use the term 'items'...does this really mean 'listings'?
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