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Does This Washington Have A Grill?

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Posted 07/22/2017   04:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Laurie 02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi sportsfans,

I'm pretty sure its Scott #69, Perf 12,
however on the back is it woven paper or a grill?

' the front



And the back



Any assistance is requested.

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Posted 07/22/2017   05:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is, in fact, a grill. Either an 'E' grill (likely) or an 'F' grill. (Looks like an 'E' - can't tell from picture - but looks too big for an 'F') Which would make your stamp a Scott #90. But a much better scan is needed to properly identify/verify. Looks legit, but pictures can distort grills easily...
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Posted 07/22/2017   05:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you MDRoth, does a grill make it more valuable?

its a pretty expensive stamp as it is!
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Posted 07/22/2017   05:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
oh thats the best I can do re scanning, I only have 600 DPI
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Posted 07/22/2017   05:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If real, it makes it considerably more valuable. According to my Scott Specialized (2012) a used #69 is $100 and a used #90 is $400. (Of course, these values are for VF condition, which yours is not. Someone with a more recent edition of the catalog can chime in with more current values...)
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Posted 07/22/2017   05:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the paper feels very thin too almost like tissue paper

the centering leaves a lot to be desired!
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Posted 07/22/2017   07:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The centering is very average for these. Finding a well centered piece is difficult and you will pay a premium. Overall I would have no problem displaying your stamp in your collection.
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Posted 07/22/2017   08:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you stallzer, I appreciate your comment....now I recall seeing a 3 cent #11 with the same sort of back...did they have grills also?
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Posted 07/22/2017   09:00 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No grills on the 1857-61's.

The image makes it hard but I think we are looking at a double grill here. Not going to even try counting points...
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Posted 07/22/2017   09:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, it does appear to be a double grill.
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Posted 07/22/2017   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does a double grill mean an error?
Or is it a random thing?
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Posted 07/22/2017   09:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lawrence, For purposes of seeing the grill better, try a scan just like the one above, but exaggerate the contrast and light/dark parameters to extremes.
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Posted 07/22/2017   09:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Will do tomorrow John, its 11:30 pm here and its time for bed!
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Posted 07/23/2017   03:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
so, I have jiggled the scan to the best of my ability....
Here's the results...

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Posted 07/23/2017   04:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I got a Lincoln in the same batch, I just noticed he has a grill too!

Any ideas?

Front



Back



The best enhancing I can do



Cheers
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Posted 07/23/2017   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like 12 columns x 17 rows, so F grill Scott #98.
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