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$1 Jubilee - Opinion?

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Posted 12/22/2018   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add canyoneer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am considering this stamp ...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/61-1-00-Vi...AOSwcmBbbIvK

Are the higher value Jubilees frequently reperforated? I'm not familiar with plate layouts - were there straight edges on the original issues? I suspect regumming on the back of this one. Thanks for any guidance offered!
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Posted 12/22/2018   10:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 12/22/2018   11:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When desiring to "swim in deeper water", first learn, then buy. Not the other way around.
Too many collectors skimp on the literature which so quickly pays for itself.
Take some time to learn the ins and outs of the Jubilees, then purchase more wisely.
You may even buy the stamp above, but you will have done so after due diligence.
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Posted 12/22/2018   12:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canyoneer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Trying to learn a little from you folks on forum... more specifically are plate layouts for Canadian stamps such that each pane would have a straight edge (or two) like US flat plate issues? I don't recall ever seeing a straight edge Jubilee ... or guidelines

Perf12 thanks for the link. It was very interesting regarding history and shade variations for this issue. Enjoying reading through other articles there also.
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Posted 12/23/2018   02:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have learned that a great deal of information can be learned from auctions and archives.
They are both major sources of information for stamp catalogues, journals, books, etc.

See: http://stampauctionnetwork.com/bg/bg318.cfm from # 56 and below
Looks like they were printed in sheets of 100 (10 x 10) stamps and issued in two panes of 50 (5 x 10) stamps with no straight edges.

See: http://stampauctionnetwork.com/bg/bg319.cfm from # 57 and above
Looks like they were printed in sheets of 50 (5 x 10) stamps and issued in panes of 50 (5 x 10) stamps with no straight edges.
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Posted 12/23/2018   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canyoneer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Jogil! That's exactly what I looking for. Are there any recommended books about Canadian Stamps that detail production/design (something similar to Max Johl's books on US stamps)? I have W. Boggs book on Newfoundland ... perhaps his book on Canadian Stamps would be worthwhile?
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Posted 12/23/2018   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stuart MacNeil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
there are a lot of issues with this one. my opinion is to leave it alone.
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Posted 12/23/2018   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
canyoneer: Canada's Postage Stamps by Douglas Patrick, The Postage Stamps and Postal History of Canada by Winthrop S. Boggs, Postage Stamps of Canada by Fred Jarrett, Canada 1897 Diamond Jubilees by Herb McNaught, Encyclopedia of the Empire Volume 5 British North America Part II Canada by Robson Lowe.
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Posted 12/23/2018   1:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Boggs Canada book is an excellent reference, even 75 years on after publishing. It's not too hard to find, as it was reprinted in the 1970s. It will cost you less than 20% of that stamp which caught your eye.

I still consult Boggs on a regular basis, as recently as two weeks ago while expertising.

Do as you wish, the seller is reputable, but...

I would echo John Becker's advice above. It's tempting to buy the attractive $100++ stamps in the Jubilee issue, but starting with / studying the inexpensive lower values and researching the literature first will make you a better-informed buyer when you splurge on the dollar values.

There are engraved forgeries, modern repros, genuine examples with removed "SPECIMEN" overprints, regums aplenty to consider amongst the pricier material.
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Posted 12/23/2018   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp seems too have the characteristics found in many of the 1$ printings.
A Small red line extending out of the left side.
B Faded frame line Under the "O".
C Small portruding line Under the "D".
D White spot.In this stamp it is more pronounced.
E A very light white line extending from the bottom of the crown.It is not apparent in
all the stamps.


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Posted 12/23/2018   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looked genuine to me too, but...

My intent was only to point out the benefits of doing one's homework before spending $$$$ on these.

I don't mind sharing privately my thoughts on the stamp, but I don't own it, and the seller too deserves courtesy on a public chat board.


I look at the eyes of the young Queen first. On forgeries, they are usually looking in two different directions. When cancelled, often with heavy roller cancels, they are harder to spot. Sorry I do not have an example to post.
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Posted 12/23/2018   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 12/23/2018   7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is as advertised, OG; regumming is not done like this. The stamp has been stuck down on something like glassine at some point which accounts for the uneven gum.

Just about any stamp can be reperfed, even for cosmetic reasons. Just because there are or are not straight edged stamps does not mean reperfing is not done.

If there is a question about something valuable like this, why wouldn't you get a cert from APS or Vincent Graves Greene?
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Posted 12/23/2018   8:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Top perfs compared to other sides



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Posted 12/23/2018   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good one Don

I would keep looking until you see one and go "WOW"

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Posted 12/23/2018   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canyoneer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Don for the perf comp image. Seems that top and bottom aren't too bad a match considering the few holes that aren't fully punched through. Left and right not quite as good a match - possible that vertical pins not exactly same gauge as horizontal pins? The mismatch is similar to both left and right sides. Paper shrinkage different horizontal to vertical?

I notice the seller will refund both stamp price and certificate cost if there are problems. To me, it's a pretty stamp - not top of the line but better than most. One of those things you'd like to see in person before taking the plunge.
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