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Posted 01/29/2019   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Take a look at this website...Also affects American ad world stamps.



http://home.golden.net/~hanssitt/SR...SRShome.html

and

http://home.golden.net/~hanssitt/SR...ordrcdn.html


Robert
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Posted 01/29/2019   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In a word, NO!

The internet address is a worry. The 'services' being offered even more so.
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Posted 01/29/2019   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 01/29/2019   4:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Loupy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I still collected expensive stamps this would worry me. I would probably send them a few inexpensive stamps to be repaired and then experiment with them when I got them back to see if I could detect their work. I still believe a good collector would catch anything they did with a Ronsonal dunk, close measurements, high magnification, and good reference material.

You guys be careful out there, now back to my #720's...
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Posted 01/29/2019   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
2nd time around for this and I can still do without

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Posted 01/29/2019   5:31 pm  Show Profile Check johnsim03's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add johnsim03 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don,

Thank you for posting the link to the previous discussion. I enjoyed it a great deal.

John
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Posted 01/29/2019   6:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, there was a talk on this subject in 2015..I brought it back for new forum members to beware of what could be out there.

I had a gentleman at a local stamp club try to sell me a Scott #1 Newfoundland stamp..I turned it over and it was obvious it had been repaired..

Just beware guys and don't let it happen to you.

Robert
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Posted 01/29/2019   6:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those that dye the gray out of their hair, or wear a toupee for that matter, would probably have no problem with getting a thin filled or otherwise repairing a stamp.

Those that prefer things to just be natural, for better or worse, would probably have an issue with repairing stamps.

I don't think that one point of view will ever convince the opposing point of view to change, to be honest.

Jim
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Posted 01/29/2019   7:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add codehappy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't "agree" with this, but this is what goes on, and has gone on since the beginning of the hobby, and will always go on as long as people care about philately; every serious collector should be aware of how stamps are altered or repaired.

In that sense, it's good to be aware of this site and the services offered. With the technology of today some very deceptive "improvements" can be made to the paper or the gum of a stamp.
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Posted 01/29/2019   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now here is a good question...

If a site like this could take a MINT old stamp with bad or peeling gum and replace it with old original (I mean gum say used in the 1930's) to a stamp of the same year, would that be a good thing or a bad thing..??

Robert
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Posted 01/29/2019   9:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pwscg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To me, a repaired stamp is a space filler only until one can get and/or afford a pristine copy.

Peter
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Posted 01/29/2019   10:52 pm  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, seconding thanks for the link to the previous discussion.

It was very enlightening with cogent points on the whole thorny issue of stamp restoration.

~gmot
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Posted 01/30/2019   06:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add john62 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not really a fan of the idea. It begs the question as to WHY someone would pay for such a restoration. Would it be to put up for sale a repaired or restored stamp (insert whatever term you prefer)without disclosing said repair to ask for a higher value? or to put this stamp into your collection?
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Posted 01/30/2019   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pennyblackie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just for the sake of discussion, if a person sees his stamps as little works of art, why would it be unethical for him to restore his stamps like how restorers restore works of art? If one intends to sell a restored stamp, it is another matter. Then it is only right he states that the stamp has been restored.
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Posted 01/30/2019   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Then it is only right he states that the stamp has been restore


pennyblackie..That would be acceptable from honest legal sellers...Its the illegal sellers that would not follow that rule..Money is their rule.

Or maybe ALL honest stamp restorer places use a common rule (adapted by all restorers) when restoring stamps to there original condition. Some thing like the 2 stamps shown below before re-gumming.

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Posted 01/30/2019   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add john62 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pennyblackie

It's the right of the owner to do whatever they want with their stamp. When the stamp is being sold then certainly an ethical question arises as to disclosure, value, etc.


"Remedial conservation" and "restoration" are both described as being actions directly applied to objects. They are distinguished by motive and by the state of the object before treatment. Remedial treatment is applied to unstable items whereas restoration can be applied to stable objects. So in this context we are discussing restoration of the stamp. In my humble opinion, a restored stamp is a kind of forgery trying to make it look like an original.

Is it always desirable to restore and if so, why?

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