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Posted 09/03/2019   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hab to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this one today. Very common as a block of four?

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Posted 09/03/2019   11:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Without a Unitrade of N.S.S.C.-Newfoundland Specialized Stamp Catalouge, your COD stamps can be worth anywhere from $1.00 US to $175.00 US.

Robert
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Posted 09/04/2019   12:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since you found the Unitrade Catalog, please check 184 and 253 to see what you have. There are Perf and size differences.
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Posted 09/04/2019   09:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Partime is correct.
you have the normal 13.5 x 13.5 plus others shown below..


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Posted 09/04/2019   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hab to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Since you found the Unitrade Catalog, please check 184 and 253 to see what you have. There are Perf and size differences.



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Partime is correct.
you have the normal 13.5 x 13.5 plus others shown below.


Okay... Good lesson opportunity for me here! Please can you explain this a bit? Do the dots on this perforation gauge line up with the cut out spots on the perforated stamp? Is that what I am looking for? Second, it states a size difference of 21mm for the Waterlow printing and the Perkins is 20.4mm. Is that the measurement of the printed part itself? Sorry for the newbieness of these questions...



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Posted 09/04/2019   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hab to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I never realized people also kept pre-postage envelopes and the marked postagenfrom them. He has a few as well... Interesting stuff! The one from shell is actually a WW2 rations card. Kind of neat!



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Posted 09/04/2019   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Do the dots on this perforation gauge line up with the cut out spots on the perforated stamp? Is that what I am looking for?

Yes, you're doing it right. Note that the gauge you have only measures the nearest half gauge number, perfect for most situations. There are more finely divided gauges available if/when the need arises.


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Second, it states a size difference of 21mm for the Waterlow printing and the Perkins is 20.4mm. Is that the measurement of the printed part itself?

Exactly so. The measurement will be for the size of the entire printed part which includes the framelines. Be aware that the measurements are nominal, not always perfectly exact but should be pretty close. The difference here is probably due to dampened paper used to print the Perkins, Bacon stamps and resulting paper shrinkage when dry.


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I never realized people also kept pre-postage envelopes and the marked postage from them.

Collectors can and will collect everything. Naturally, it's up to the individual on what to collect and how specialized they want to be. The cutouts (some are "cut squares", some are cut to shape here) are commoner in older collections and still collected that way although many prefer whole stationery items nowadays.
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Posted 09/04/2019   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hab, your Shell postal stationary cover has a nice blackout cancel. Showing no location or province they were used during the war years so as not to identify where the mail was coming from. Since your cover shows says the location of the Shell Oil Co. In B.C. we can almost safely say that the cancellation is from the Vancouver office. Nice and clean.

Mike
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Posted 09/04/2019   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hab to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am super appreciating all the info!!!

I am searching the internet for info on these three Canada Bill Stamps. Looks like they are the second issue from 1865 to 1868 but that is all I can seem to get. Are they rarer or just not a lot of interest?


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Posted 09/04/2019   9:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hab, they are not regular postal issues used on mail. Certainly not rare, but may be varieties, just not sure as I have some but never got into any depth studying them. As you noted they are bill stamps used on documents to pay tax. If not mistaken they will be found in a revenue catalogue like E.S.J. Vandam.

Mike
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Posted 09/05/2019   05:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The bill stamps were used on cheques, promissary notes and such, with fees depending on the amount of the instrument. So you can imagine that most values are common.

The stamps here are clearly faulty to varying degrees. The leftmost stamp has damaged/short/pulled perfs at left, the center stamp has a couple of short perfs and the rightmost has a major chunk taken out of it. None are particularly well-centered, which affects the value, in addition to the faults. This centering is the usual for this issue but catalog valuation of around a couple dollars each is for better centered (margins all round) and sound stamps. So these are worth minimal amounts. They are still collectible, just not in the best of condition.
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Posted 09/05/2019   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hab to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the detailed reply hy-brazil... Evaluating and organizing the good from the bad might seem child's play to most but being a newb having those details helps immensely!
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Posted 09/05/2019   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From left to right the Bill stamps are Van Dam FB18, FB20 and FB22 with respective used catalog values of $5, $5 and $15. There is a variety of the FB20, FB20a, that has a gash at top of the left "3" valued at $250.
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Posted 09/05/2019   7:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hab to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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From left to right the Bill stamps are Van Dam FB18, FB20 and FB22 with respective used catalog values of $5, $5 and $15. There is a variety of the FB20, FB20a, that has a gash at top of the left "3" valued at $250.


Thanks rogdcam! I appreciate the info. I went in to a stamp dealer locally and bought some supplies today and a new Unitrade catalogue, and even though these would not have been in it, I look forward to researching more!
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