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Canadian Philatelic Expertizing Service Certificates

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Posted 04/01/2020   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see the CPES Certificate as a certification. I see it more as an ownership mark. It's something that identifies the stamp as being owned by a collector/dealer of fine stamps. It describes the stamp like a Lot Description.

VGG Certificates are the best, however, I have currently seen many that do not point out faults in the stamps. sometimes major faults. If you want to spend $40-70 on certificate then that's up to you. The VGG Certificate does increase realizations but the amount of the increase maybe very little on a stamp with a hammer price of $200 or less. If you have a truly expensive stamp then the VGG certificate is the one to get. You may have to put up a fight to get the correct opinion.

Both CPES and Gratton (AEIP) certificates are not recognized by better Auction houses in Canada. The difference is the AIEP certificate is expensive, whereas, the Dealer gives you the CPES certificate with the purchase of the stamp. I see almost no value in the Gratton (AEIP) certificate. When I sell high value stamps at auction, they just toss CPES and Gratton certs in the garbage. I hate to say it but that's true.
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Posted 04/01/2020   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good info Jimjung. Thank you.
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Posted 04/01/2020   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it wrong to provide a certificate of authenticity for a variety that one has discovered?
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Posted 04/01/2020   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you discovered the variety an unbiased certificate is necessary from a certifying agency. You would be the submitter.
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Edited by redwoodrandy - 04/01/2020 8:36 pm
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Posted 04/01/2020   8:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A peer-reviewed article in a philatelic journal is probably better than a self- generated cert.


I dislike the overall tone of this thread so far, a little community respect please:

Richard Gratton, an AIEP accredited philatelist, has 40+ years experience in pulp and paper. He has also published several peer-reviewed articles on paper in the Canadian Philatelist. Ariel Hasid has supported and dealt in high-end BNA philately for decades.

Perhaps readers should know this before accepting postings on a chatboard as truth.
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Posted 02/01/2023   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampvamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear jinjung.
Just read today your nasty comments about my certificates.
I would like to inform you that I have made close to 60,000 certificates on BNA items in the last 40 years.
I am sad to hear that you think all these good certificates were trashed. Not able to give names, maybe I can, Some auctions houses do not like my certificates beacause I describe all the defects in the stamps and give my opinion on their condition, This is asked by the code of conduct of the AIEP"
I recommend you look at Sparks auctions and look for my name.
I am the ONLY AIEP expert in Canada and if you think my certificates are no good, then please do not send me anymore items.
I take only 2 weeks to give my opinion and my certiciates are highly regarded by the International philatelic community.
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Posted 02/01/2023   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampvamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 02/01/2023   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thread bumped from several years ago.

Stampvamp.
Bad start in re-joining the community. In my opinion your attacks reflect more on yourself than anyone else.
Don
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