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Trouble With The Taylor 5 Cent A55 Idenfying It It.

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Posted 07/24/2020   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the interested the foreign material I believe is straw .With the help of Swedishtiger I see it was used.
https://www.theswedishtiger.com/179-scotts.html
I don't really understand if the 185 stamp also had straw added to it, because they seem to repeat some things to explain the process, in this web site.I don't see any suggestion of straw in the Scott's Specialized guild of the 185 stamp just the 179.
This white paper used here on this stamp almost supports the fact of a different paper or process being used not only the hard yellowish wove being told about in all the stamp guild's .Maybe there should be a better category or a explanation in all the stamp guild's .Isn't finding out what the correct facts about a stamp is the fun in stamp collecting and necessary in labeling them right.
What do you think?
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Posted 07/25/2020   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Straw is most likely pulp contamination. "Straw paper" is sometimes seen in Continental Bank Note Company stamps. Is the paper narrative in The Swedish Tiger website consistent with older narratives? The Barwis article, based on science, contains the most reliable information available.
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Edited by cfrphoto - 07/25/2020 10:02 am
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Posted 07/25/2020   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again for your input, this is all good to know info.
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Posted 07/25/2020   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dan, CFR - After reading your posts about straw in the paper I gave some of mine a look and found several candidates. I know straw but am not sure what it would look like in paper so I am posting these pictures in hopes you may clear it up for me. Each one was taken with a ruler showing 1 mm. Though there some smaller pieces most were about that size.



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Posted 07/25/2020   11:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is what my stamp has too.
I believe it is straw .
Why you say ,if you look at the largest piece of straw on my stamp ,its very organic very square like straw should be. It is the right color brown like yours and it is not slim or curling like silk .

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Posted 07/26/2020   04:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How are you determining that it is a piece of straw vs. a piece of wood?
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Posted 07/26/2020   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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How are you determining that it is a piece of straw vs. a piece of wood?


Please keep in mind that the fibers in "Continental silk paper" are not silk. Some philatelic terms for paper types were invented or made up before science caught up. Consider the case of "China clay" paper. Science has not been a strong point of philately for most of its existence.
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Posted 07/26/2020   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How are you determining that it is a piece of straw vs. a piece of wood?

I don't have a clue. Just guessing and asking others. The person that used it could have had Corn Flakes for breakfast as well.
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Posted 07/26/2020   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you really wanted to find out there are ways most likely a high powered microscopes.
There are patterns that differ in organic material like a finger print.
I don't think it matters here, the consistency of the material are the same in colors and shapes they are telling you its all the same.In Swedish tigers observation its straw it could be wood they look alike.
It would be great to find out for sure its not potato chips ,with a high powered microscope you would know.
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Posted 07/26/2020   1:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What will knowing if it is straw or wood do? This thread started out "having trouble identifying Taylor 5 cent A55". Not being facetious. Just wondering where it is heading given that we are heading towards high powered microscopes and organic material fingerprint patterns! LOL
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Posted 07/26/2020   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe we are heading towards high powered microscopes .
I think its obvious it doesn't need it .
Just look at all the evidence ,its all the same color the same square material and almost the same size pieces.
Comparing is always a great way to identify a stamp.
This is what is great about a stamp community you can compare your stamps ,just think it wouldn't be possible with out this great site and great people.
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Posted 07/26/2020   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
But what will straw as opposed to wood mean?
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Posted 07/26/2020   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The difference is if you want it in the books to be correct with real evidence .
It also might help in other researches of other stamps. You may never know what new box it will open ,the fascinating tidbit of information you might acquire if you do it.If you don't do anything you know nothing more.
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Posted 07/26/2020   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dan - Have you considered joining the USPCS?

https://www.uspcs.org/
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Posted 07/26/2020   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dan Townsend to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You Rogdcam;
I will check it out
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