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Hi Classic, thanks. I'll double check the Massachusetts stamp.
Update: I went back and corrected to other post. The stamp is absolutely #11A. I have to remember that many times the image between early and late are very similar. |
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| Edited by NicholasC - 02/12/2025 8:55 pm |
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That's a neat cover with a clearly printed stamp, stampcrow. The color looks post-office fresh. Thanks for showing it.
Have you plated the stamp? Looks like plate 5L. |
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I have not plated it. I agree plate 5L at first look because of the, what I call, delicate inner frame lines.
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| Edited by stampcrow - 02/14/2025 9:06 pm |
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Must this be 34R5L? It has pretty much all the same rust marks as the sample shown at stampplating.com.  |
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What do you think of 21R1L for this one? Seems to be a right pane stamp and there is what looks to be a guide dot way over on the bottom left.  |
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Could that be a dot in the diamond block? It appears to be the same color as the inking of the stamp, but it is much smaller than the examples.  |
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| Edited by NicholasC - 02/14/2025 11:28 pm |
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Hi Nicholas C --
That dot in the center of the LRDB only exists on 2 positions -- 69L5E and 69L5L.
FYI -- 69L5E has one line recut in the ULT -- which was pressed out and completely eradicated when the plate was re-entered to become plate 5L.
The size of the GD can vary due to differences in inking, impression, and plate wear.
Post up a 1200 dpi scan and lets see the full stamp.
Regards // ioagoa
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Here's the whole stamp. Unfortunately, it's missing the entire left side.  |
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Hi NicholasC --
Your stamp with the apparent GD in the LRDB is definitely not position 69L5E nor 69L5L. The RIL is way off -- both by way of its relationship to the RFL -- and its stopping point at its upper end. On both 69L5E and 69L5L the RIL runs up and into the URT -- but on your stamp it stops at a level roughly opposite the 3:00 position of the URR which is well short of the URT.
A couple of additional comments about your stamp:
-- Your stamp has a NY integral "1 bar" cds cancellation -- with the bar underneath the day. This particular cds cancellation is discussed by Hubert Skinner in his article titled "The Cancellations and Postmarks of New York City: 1845–1876, Their Usage and Postal History" -- which was published in the Philatelic Foundation Seminar Series Textbook No. 3 -- U.S. Postmarks and Cancellations -- Copyright 1992. Skinner classified the cancellation as NYDM 56-2 -- and states that it was in use from 1856 to 1860.
-- The stamp is an A relief.
-- The stamp appears to either be a double transfer or have a bunch of stray inking (???). Look in the white space between the RIL and RFL just above the LRR -- and it appears that a bit of the tessellation work might be doubled up -- OR -- perhaps that is an unusual bit of ink splatter (???). I also see what looks like a possible DT in the S of CENTS -- but again -- that may just be more stray ink. Likewise -- there also appears to be stray inking outside of the frame lines in the lower right corner margins -- which might explain that unusual dot of ink in the LRDB?
FWIW -- Based on everything that I am seeing, I am leaning toward all of the ink specks and splatter being stray ink -- but that is only a guess at this point.
You should try and plate the stamp and see what you come up with.
Regards // ioagoa
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Hi @ioagoa. Thanks for the input. I think I found it. How about 12L5L? It's described as having rust marks in the lower right corner area. There's even a dot in the diamond. Here's the Dr. Chase image:  |
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| Edited by NicholasC - 02/15/2025 12:21 pm |
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Hi Nicholas C --
YES -- 12L5L is correct -- nicely done!
Great example of plate 5L rust spots by the way.
Regards // ioagoa |
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Hi NicholasC,
I checked out your 21R1L, and it is correctly plated. Nice plating reference. Thanks for showing it. |
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It's interesting that a dot in the middle of the LR diamond block is a rust spot at one position on plate 5L, and a position dot at another position. Here is a recently acquired 69L5L showing the position dot in the middle of the lower-right diamond block. The color is brownish claret. However, my scanner doesn't render the claret color well.  |
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