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Posted 06/26/2020   7:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi banknote guy
This is from Scott specialised colour chart for 10/11


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Posted 06/26/2020   8:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi banknoteguy--

Regarding the definitions of the rarity factors in the Chronicle article by Amonette / Hulme -- see Chronicle # 206 -- May 2005 -- page 109 -- where Bill and Wilson defined what each of the rarity factors meant. For "No Number" -- they stated "color seen frequently".

It was a shame that their original article in Chronicle #206 had a major typo in the rarity factor table wherein the rarity factors assigned were misaligned with the color names -- which is why the table had to be separately republished in Chronicle #207.

You might also find Bill's original article about color interesting as well -- which was in Chronicle #78 -- May 1973 -- starting on page 85. At that time, Bill assigned a numbering system of 1 through 8 -- and actually assigned dollar value ranges to each rarity factor.

Amazingly, rarity factor "8" -- which was assigned to the pinks, plums, and most of the other rare colors -- had a dollar value range of $25 -- $30 !!

Based on Laurie02's most recent post -- it looks like in June 1997 -- (which was in between 1973 when Bill published his original article in the Chronicle -- and 2005 when him and Wilson published their update) -- Bill was using a 10 point scale to classify the relative rarity of the colors.

In any event, with regard to the commonest of the colors -- the rarity classifications are generally the same across all 3 tables (i.e., 1973, 1997, and 2005). That said, the rarity factors for some of the rare colors were adjusted a bit over the years based on additional data that had been gathered.

Regards // ioagoa

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Posted 06/26/2020   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Laurie, Thanks for posting the color rarity scale from the U.S. Specialized catalog. None of my copies of the catalog have it.

ioagoa, That sums it up very well. Thanks.
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Posted 06/26/2020   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Happy to help CC after all the assistance and tips I get from this thread.
It's not from the catalogue, it's from the specialised colour guide put out by Scott a few years ago.
Cheers
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Posted 06/26/2020   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for clearing that up, Laurie.
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Posted 06/27/2020   07:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tgswanner to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Gary. The age of Covid19 has opened up philatelic doors I never thought I would open. I have attended philatelic zoom meetings/webinars over the past few months. Would you consider doing that with the 3c issue? Maybe a plating 101 for example? Lots of possibilities. Just a thought. Thanks...greg
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Posted 06/27/2020   07:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good Morning ioagoa, I came up with 1R4. As you said, the TFL was a give away. What's interesting is the variety of shoulder "gashes", some faint and some bold like this stamp.

Again, thanks ioagoa. Appreciate the assistance.
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Posted 06/27/2020   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moyock13 --

YES -- 1R4 -- good work !!!

Attached is a scan of my 1R4 -- not the best stamp in the world -- but another reference copy.

Always happy to help a fellow plater.

Regards // ioagoa

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Posted 06/27/2020   12:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, Greg, That's a great suggestion, but I'm not very comfortable in public speaking roles. Perhaps another experienced plater would be better suited. I believe, even within this thread, there are more skilled platers than me.

I would consider developing a graphic presentation on plating the 3-cent issue, if it would complement the resources on stampplating.com. I've significantly increased the use of my scanner for plating in the last several years, as has been demonstrated with vertically compressed images in this thread. So scanner use as a plating tool would be a topic that may not have been covered previously.

Gary

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Posted 06/27/2020   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Classic Coins --

Regarding putting together a presentation on plating (as well as any other aspect of the 3 cent issue of 1851 -- 1857) -- I would be happy to contribute to such an initiative -- including taking on a public speaking role.

If that is something that would be of interest, please private message me through SCF and we can discuss ideas for how to move forward off-line.

I would PM you, but as a new member I am not allowed to do that yet.

Regards // ioagoa

edited for typo fix
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Posted 06/27/2020   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ioagoa,

Message sent.
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Posted 06/27/2020   6:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A miss-cut, but with three big margins, #7 (unplated)

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Posted 06/27/2020   6:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice CC
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Posted 06/27/2020   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ioagoa, thanks. I had help! Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, it was a full day of working around the house.

tgswanner, great idea. I would really enjoy the opportunity to participate in plating 101 as a student.

I look forward to what this group can do. There's a lot of talent and knowledge here, it would be great to share it.
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Posted 06/27/2020   10:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For what it's worth, I would absolutely participate in an online group meeting/presentation to discuss/learn about the 1851-57 3 cent stamps.
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