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Posted 07/23/2020   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Moyock13 -- thanks for the info on Retro-Reveal. It is now on my list to check out and see how it works. Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 07/23/2020   1:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I inverted the colors and adjusted the hue and contrast in an image editor on ioagoa's stamp with the olive brown cancel. I think it makes the letters more distinct, especially the last letter where I think I see the slanted leg of a K.

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Posted 07/23/2020   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It does! Way to go Classic Coins!
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Posted 07/23/2020   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Moyock13. I think NO can be ruled out as the first two letters with this image. I think Berwick is still plausible.
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Posted 07/23/2020   1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I concur. I can make out the "E" and bottom half of the "B".
Good work. What image editor did you use?
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Posted 07/23/2020   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
classic coins and Moyock13 --

I agree -- Norwich is definitely out.

I also agree with the slanted leg of the K as noted by classic coins -- and with the B and the E as noted by Moyock13 as well.

Berwick is now the most likely -- but impossible to know if "North" or South".

Back to Siegel power search and PF cert search to see if I can find a "brown" or "olive brown" cds attributable to either.

Thanks again for all the hard work on this -- and retro reveal is definitely on my list of "tools" to check out for future use.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 07/23/2020   2:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I used paint.net for the adjustments, but hue and contrast can be adjusted in most image editors.
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Posted 07/23/2020   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know if there is a difference in the layout of the North Berwick and South Berwick cds's?? Obviously, 'North' or 'South' is lost forever from this stamp, but maybe there is a design difference on what we CAN see.
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Posted 07/23/2020   10:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I searched the Siegel power search, ebay sold listing, and Google images, and I couldn't find an example of the North Berwick or South Berwick CDS on an 1851-57 stamp.
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Posted 07/23/2020   10:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi classic coins --

I also tried Siegel's "power search" utility this afternoon -- and "no cigar".

Also checked Simpson's U.S. Postal Markings 1851--1861 (by Alexander) for a possible tracing of either a North Berwick or South Berwick cds -- and nothing there either.

The PF cert search seems to be down today as I was unable to gain access? Curious if anybody else has had trouble accessing the "cert search" utility on their website?

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 07/23/2020   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ioagoa:

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The PF cert search seems to be down today as I was unable to gain access? Curious if anybody else has had trouble accessing the "cert search" utility on their website?


There is another topic discussing the issues with the PF search utility. That thread is a few weeks old, but maybe the problems remain.


https://goscf.com/t/73221
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Posted 07/24/2020   5:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ioagoa, Regarding your Chicopee, MS mystery cancel, which is gorgeous by the way, my postal history knowledge is very weak.

According to Simpson/Alexander, usage of cancelling devices with the rate numeral continued to be used beyond January 1, 1856, when prepayment with stamps became obligatory.

I wonder if someone inserted the wrong numeral in the Chicopee cancelling device, when a 3 should have been inserted. The fact that the numeral 5 is italicized makes it even more of a curiosity, I think.

On the same note, here is an 1851 Savannah, Georgia commodities price list with a #10A canceled with a CDS with a common 3-cent rate numeral:




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Posted 07/24/2020   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chicopee - Given that the 5 is separated from the Sep 6 by a horizontal bar, the 5 is very likely the rate and 6 is the day.

One cannot be 100% sure without a full cover, but if it was a single letter rate under 1/2oz then this was likely just either mis-struck, or the wrong slug, etc as suggested previously. Such things do happen from time to time.

Chicopee during the 1850s was well known for its 'Chicopee Mass' CDS with a separate 'star' killer, which is widely collected. This isn't that one, and appears earlier than the 'star' version - based upon stamp plate impression.
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Posted 07/24/2020   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have one on cover. But here is the Chicopee star cancels. Simpson's Rarity Number - 4.

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Posted 07/24/2020   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those are some nice examples of an interesting cancel, Stephen! Thanks for showing them.
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