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Posted 02/03/2021   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Back2Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A friend of mine has inherited a family stamp collection. I have been helping her evaluate the collection but feel my knowledge is extremely limited in this area.

The envelope contained a letter to her uncle, mother and aunt. It was sent to them by their sister. The cover back appears to note that the letter passed through the censors. The picture of the cover front is obviously partial and depicts the stamps and cancellation only.

Do any of you see anything else of historical or postal significance?

Thank you for your time.
Dave


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Posted 02/03/2021   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From Lodz, now in Poland to California. Censor marks. The sender's name appears Jewish. The Rauchgasse was in the Jewish ghetto of Lodz (Litzmannstadt), the second largest in Europe after that of Warsaw. It was being established when the letter was sent.

At least it is interesting from a historical perspective.
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Edited by NSK - 02/03/2021 2:46 pm
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Posted 02/03/2021   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a forgery.will have to check..
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Posted 02/03/2021   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You ought to show the whole cover, front and back so we can tell better as to what is going on here


Peter
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Posted 02/03/2021   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Partial pictures do not help your case or ours. If you want the addressee to remain anonymous, just cover that part with a slip of paper to show us the cover front, please.

Litzmannstadt was the German occupation name of Lodz, Poland. It was the site of the Litzmannstadt ghetto where Jews and Roma were confined. There is nothing to immediately indicate that this could be from the ghetto from what is shown.
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Edited by hy-brasil - 02/03/2021 3:18 pm
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Posted 02/03/2021   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The sender address at the back is Rauchgasse 30. This street was situated in the ghetto.
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Posted 02/03/2021   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe the sender was Jewish. There is no required Old Testament first name.

Also, by this date (September 1940) there would have been a large number of older, ethnic Germans sent to this area (greater Germany) as "settlers".
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Posted 02/03/2021   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Highly unlikely that Arian Germans lived in the Rauchgasse in September 1940

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...article/lodz
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/l...s_ghetto.htm

Also, Szwarzberg is a Jewish name.
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Posted 02/03/2021   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A name ending in "berg", rather then "burg" is often Jewish.
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Posted 02/03/2021   3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I stand corrected; I've never seen such cover without first name.
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Posted 02/03/2021   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kaja?
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Posted 02/03/2021   4:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe you are correct. I looked up Kaja because I am not familiar with it. It is a feminine name in Polish, and unisex in Czech. Still, it doesn't meet the Nazi requirement.

Cover certainly appears to be genuine, in my opinion.
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Posted 02/03/2021   4:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting routing. San Pedro CA on 30 October 1940, Festus MO on November 2. Which way did it travel to the USA? Of course, USA was not directly involved in the war at that time but this suggests it came either "the long way" across the Pacific, or via Mexico and then into the USA. Anyone know about this sort of thing?

The censor tape is tied by the San Pedro cancel, so this looks legit.
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Posted 02/03/2021   4:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is genuine also.I checked the red censor handstamp with Jakob Blaugrund's cards handstamp.From the link below;
https://blog.ehri-project.eu/2020/1...the-ghettos/
It may of been the same handstamp used in the op's cover and the card.


Another red handstamp with the same characteristics:
http://www.holocaustjourney.com/cat...i-bi-lublin/
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Edited by perf12 - 02/03/2021 5:02 pm
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Posted 02/03/2021   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I imagine that it would have gone to Lisbon; by October of 1940 France had fallen, and it would be easy for German mail to go through Spain to get there. Once there it would be flown to the US. I'm not sure if Bermuda was involved yet.
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Posted 02/04/2021   02:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this:
http://www.edwardvictor.com/Ghettos...lic_main.htm
Agree, very likely a Jewish name and if the street was in the ghetto, that's that. Note that in the above examples of mail being sent outside the camp, there is no "Sarah" or the other required name added within the actual name, so there might have been a special agreement not to do this.

The routing via San Pedro suggests it came across the Pacific, via the Red Cross or somesuch. Unless we are shown the whole front and whole back, we can only speculate. If the enclosed letter is dated, that would also be useful.
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