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Posted 11/09/2021   3:00 pm  Show Profile Check jomic-3139's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add jomic-3139 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
How to find out the value of this cover?

BTW: Newbie here; Hearty hello to all!!


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Posted 11/09/2021   3:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome here!
One thing you can do is post a picture of the entire piece?


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Posted 11/09/2021   3:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome jomic

Please post a scan or a photo of the article, front and back, so we give you a better guide.

The postmark you've shown isn't rare but without seeing the full picture we can't help very much.
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Posted 11/09/2021   4:59 pm  Show Profile Check jomic-3139's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jomic-3139 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not much on the entire cover ad there is no back, just the front of the envelope:

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Edited by jomic-3139 - 11/09/2021 7:53 pm
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Posted 11/09/2021   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jomic

The addressee is General Sir Peregrine Maitland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Maitland

The 'PAID' handstamp was used for official correspondence. Lowe states it was used from 1844 to 1858.

Maitland in New South Wales is named after him.

Closer to home (mine), the gold field of Maitland Bar was also named after him.

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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 11/09/2021 6:05 pm
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Posted 11/09/2021   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is where he may have been living at the time........

39 LOWNDES STREET, LONDON SW1

Lower left of cover is the signature of the sender (I think)

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Edited by rod222 - 11/09/2021 6:02 pm
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Posted 11/09/2021   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Lower left of cover is the signature of the sender (I think)


Agreed Rod.
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Posted 11/09/2021   6:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

You have a cover handled by someone whom fought at the Battle of Waterloo. That to me is exciting.

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Edited by rod222 - 11/09/2021 6:24 pm
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Posted 11/09/2021   9:11 pm  Show Profile Check jomic-3139's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jomic-3139 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All I can say you two, Bobby De La Run & Rob222, is, WOW! The information is outstanding and the pictures are breathtaking. To think that I hold a piece of paper that was once held by a person who fought at Waterloo!! AND a General at that. Thank you, you two; It's nice to belong to such a nice Stamp Community Forum Family!
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Posted 11/09/2021   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Our pleasure jomic.

Again, welcome to the friendliest corner on the internet for stamps & postal history

The one thing we haven't done is talk about monetary value.

For that, we need to see the back of the envelope!
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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 11/09/2021 11:07 pm
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Posted 11/09/2021   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Lower left of cover is the signature of the sender (I think)

A pretty good chance instead that this is docketing added by the recipient to remind him who sent the letter without having to re-open it. Note the difference in the ending "t" of the name and the "t" at the end of street, the difference in ink color indicating a different time of application, and the slight difference in slant.
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Posted 11/09/2021   11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting,
we need to get SCF "Penguins" (The Shanahans) to offer their opinion.
I think Eunice translates early Brit covers.

I have an open mind.
I was unable to translate the scribbles under "Maitland"
and the bottom corner (Thought I could see Reg for regiment amongst it)

This cover was just 2 years before Sir Maitland passed away,
and 8 weeks after he was Knighted?

Obviously not a Maitland signature, but maybe an Aide de camp?

sent an email..


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Edited by rod222 - 11/09/2021 11:36 pm
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Pricing your cover.
Bobby may have a price from Howe, regarding the Pmk crowned "PAID"
My information is only 1983, Whitney Catalogue "Collect British Postmarks"
prices the crowned "FREE" at £3 (Cat#16 "many variations")
Your cover I would suggest at 85% of the current value.

Add to that the value of the adressee, and perhaps a "CRICKET" thematic,
that may, or may not add value.

Note: "Fronts" only attract 75% of quoted values.

Check ebay for similar pre stamp covers.

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Edited by rod222 - 11/10/2021 12:12 am
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Posted 11/10/2021   07:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Penguins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How about FitzRoy Somerset?


Somerset, Fitzroy James Henry
MP Truro 1818-20&1826-29
1788-1855
It looks like that to us but we cheated and contacted a 'source' in the UK who happened to be awake - lucky!

Regards.
Eunice and Ron
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Posted 11/10/2021   3:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
My information is only 1983, Whitney Catalogue "Collect British Postmarks"
prices the crowned "FREE" at £3


The Lowe book is from 1952 and prices the handstamp at 3d, which was relatively low at the time.
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Posted 11/10/2021   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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How about FitzRoy Somerset?


Wow!
Brilliant! Thanks Eunice and Ron.
Dates qualify.

Alas! it does not solve, whether name / signature of sender (or aide)
or John's suggestion of "contents"

I personally remain with the former, solely on common accepted procedure at the time. (and in specific location on the cover)

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