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Posted 12/21/2021   11:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If I read your reply correctly, you would not have "transient variety" in your vocabulary?

Yes I would because the same issue is changing over time; but ultimately it is the same issue (i.e. crack growing, rust, etc) that can be found over multiple stamps.

Of course the 'gotcha' that can be tossed out is to say, 'well a printing issue like some blob stuck on a plate is also a "transient variety" since it occurs across a number of stamps.

At what point is the line drawn or do we call every stamp a variety? I admit that I have distaste/bias against this topic because of the marketing abuse. We have all seen listings and other descriptive adjectives which label everything an 'error' or otherwise special. (Stamps that used to be called badly centered are now peddled as 'perf variety' or 'errors'.) I wish those which practiced this would be the ones who invest their time in explaining to the endless numbers of folks who then think they have something of great market value. As such and probably due to this bias, I tend to hold a tight definition of the term variety.
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Posted 12/21/2021   11:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don,

Opinion noted, although I will continue to use the word "variety" with various adjectives before it. Just like the threads discussing phrases "mint no gum", "mint-hinged", etc. The goal is complete and clear communication.

I would agree that "error" is highly overused, including in the title of this thread.
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Posted 12/21/2021   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If someone has a Stanley Gibbons, can they look up the SG245v


Obviously a simple furphy.
To have a sub variety of "v" would suggest an entire list of suffixes
of other errors on the same stamp.

I would suggest the person whom wrote or said 245v, meant #245 v =(variety)
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Posted 12/21/2021   10:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 'v' in SG245v is not in the catalog, it's just a handy way for a collector to say the stamp is a variety, not listed in the catalog. If it were catalog listed the letter would be a lot closer to the beginning of the alphabet. (Note that some catalogs do use 'v', such as Facit, but Scott and SG do not as far as I am aware).
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Posted 12/22/2021   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mljespe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the excellent, detailed posts!

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Posted 12/22/2021   12:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You still need a expert to issue a opinion and cert . before you submit it to a major catalog for listing . Without that it is a $3.00 stamp and a novelty .Nice find and will get attention from specialist .
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Posted 12/22/2021   12:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mljespe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Floortrader.
I did not think about submitting for expertizing. Do u think it is worth the time and money to do so? If so, which expertising group would u recommend.
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Posted 12/22/2021   1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am the wrong person to ask that question to . I spend too much time on my stamps my whole life . The other point of spending money on stamps is another fault of mine .


To get it expertised you can used Sergio Sismondo of Syracuse N.Y. ,he always gave me excellent service or the A.P.S. service called Am. Phil. Exp. Services . in Bellefonte Pa.
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Posted 12/22/2021   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Getting something expertised and submitting it to the various cataloging entities does not guarantee any catalog will list it. Just saying.
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Posted 12/22/2021   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

May be a good start with these gents:

http://www.bcpsg.com/

Hornet
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Posted 12/25/2021   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also part of the reason it might not be listed is due to already way too many "varieties" to list. I have come across many varieties in my KGVI collection that aren't listed like shifted vignettes and others. How many printing plates were used for theses? Almost every country used the same plates?
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