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Posted 08/11/2017   10:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lain unidentified for 10 years.
Initial language appears to be German.
Embossed, clear shiny gum.

Standard International Philatelic Exchange
Any members seen these before? information?


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Edited by rod222 - 08/11/2017 10:02 pm
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Posted 08/15/2017   06:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unknown.
Maybe a letter seal.
Maybe German
Reeck's Dauerband.
Embossed clear cracked gum.

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Posted 08/15/2017   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

I haven't been able to find any info on your last two. In fact, this thread appears to be the only place on the Internet where the words "Reeck's" and "Dauerband" are mentioned together.
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Posted 08/15/2017   6:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much, Postmaster.
I ended up empty handed as well.

I'll put them in the Australian Cinderella Magazine for broadcast.
(First time in colour, next edition)

Our last edition had a cynosure on stamp exchange clubs (Australia)
Rod.

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Posted 08/23/2017   2:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chaulkdust to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After reading through this thread I have a question about the Mi 155 plate fault II/IV. Would this stamp be a flaw or just a overprint that's at an angle? Most of my others like this are fairly straight?



Thank you in advance for any replies.
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Posted 08/23/2017   2:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say that's a plate flaw IV.
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Posted 08/23/2017   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chaulkdust, Michel lists this as plate flaw #155 I PF IV, or 155 II PF IV. If the overprint is glossy, it is the first (155 euros) and if it a dull/ sooty overprint it the second (1500 euros). Looks like a nice one.
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Posted 08/23/2017   3:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How interesting, I had just passed this off as a slip of the sheet in printing.

My middle stamp, has a slight tilt to Starboard. (Dull, sooty ?)
"Germania" has faded, maybe aggressive water temperature in soaking.

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Posted 08/23/2017   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, the degree of shine can vary a lot. If you have the dull/sooty overprint (hope you do) it is very obvious - no reflections whatsoever.
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Edited by bookbndrbob - 08/23/2017 3:30 pm
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Posted 08/23/2017   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cheers Bob,
I always opt for the negative, for colours /shades / etc, I believe the stamp has to be mint, to be decisive.

Mine looks sooty, but the previous history is unknown, it may have been dipped in bleach, who knows?

I am happy to just put the information from yourself and Postmaster, adjacent to the stamp. Interesting nontheless.



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Posted 08/23/2017   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chaulkdust to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information. I am trying to convert all my co0llection over to Michel from Scott. The Specialized catalog indicates 3 type of overprints (Drab overprint, Glossy and Sooty).

Any hints at how to examine the stamps(154-157) to see which you have? Use a light source and look for reflection level?? Any tips?

Thanks
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Posted 08/23/2017   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sooty or drab overprints will not reflect light...you will see no highlights/reflections in the overprint under a high intensity lamp. In my Michel Spezials, the shiny overprints are listed as one type, with the range indicated.

This thread made me go back through my duplicates of this stamp to see if I had one of the PF IV's. I think this is one, but Michel doesn't specify how much lower the right number has to be. On this stamp, the right "3" is about .35 mm lower.



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Edited by bookbndrbob - 08/23/2017 6:19 pm
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Posted 08/23/2017   6:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a photo from a current auction on Philasearch which shoes a certified IV (left) next to a regular 155 (right).



bookbndrbob, I'm leaning toward regular 155 on yours.
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Posted 08/23/2017   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
chaulkdust,

The glossy/matte/sooty distinction can be a little challenging. The best way I can describe it is that the glossy ones to to be really glossy, the sooty ones seem to absorb all light with no reflection at all, and the matte ones are not glossy, but the do reflect a little light (unlike the sooty ones).
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Posted 08/23/2017   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks PostmasterGS. The scan gives a pretty clear idea of how much lower the "3" has to be. I don't think my stamp "makes the cut".
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