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Do Hinge Remnants Cause Any Damage To Stamps Over Time?

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Posted 11/16/2024   07:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On the subject of premium value for stamps in the area of Mint Never Hinged and Mint Hinged .difference . .

Here is the way it is as a general rule . Stamps before 1960/1970 have a premium that can be as high as 50%,especially for pre-1940 .

The stamps after 1970 it makes little difference with a few exceptions like U.S.. All the hundreds of thousands different sets issued after the 1970's it make no difference with MNH and MH , with a few exceptions .

My rule is if it is under $10.00 catalog hinge it .

A crazy thing that gets no extra money from me is all the sellers who think adding or I.D. a few MNH stamps when they are selling their collection of hundreds of stamps . If you don't have page after page of complete sets that are MNH , then forget about noting those few stamps . Their wasting my time showing me a few cheap MNH stamps ..
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Posted 11/16/2024   07:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a sad fact that over the years ,tens of thousands of collections are filled with thousands of cheap MNH stamps are placed in expensive mounts by collectors . But the stamps catalog less than a dollar and are the low values of a set .. When those collections are sold the new buyer or auction firm discounts it due the fact they are going to remove those mounts .

Mounts are a pain in the butt when breaking down a collection ,especial when the former owner put hinged stamps and low value common stamps that are mnh in them . Money down the drain .
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Posted 11/16/2024   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silhat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for those opinions.

The question was for used stamps because that's what I collect.

floortrader, if I am not wrong, you were a dealer/trader in stamps, so your point of view is quite interesting. That's really what's bothering me : using expensive mounts on 0 value stamps. As if we collect mounts that sometimes we damage with stamps.

Of course, my collection is not to sell, but my childs would perhaps consider this when the time will come. Then, it would be better for them to hear that their father was not a complet inept moron.

Second point is I am totally with GeoffHa concerning the aesthetic : mounts don't appeal to me.

The only point that would deter me from using hinges is the damages that their acidic proprieties could bring. Is it a thing you ever encountered ?



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Posted 11/16/2024   08:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Silhat ---I have stamps in my albums that I mounted 62 years ago ,with no sign of damage . I use Dennison or Fold-o -Hinges , that is the key . Yes I tried those German made hinges and torn a few stamps they are not made to peel/ removed off the stamp .

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Posted 11/16/2024   11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the July 1954 issue of American Philatelist. All your hinge problems solved. Not. Subsequently found to permanently stain the stamps.


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Posted 11/16/2024   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is a no gum stamp as valuable as a MNH stamp?
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Posted 11/16/2024   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Subsequently found to permanently stain the stamps.

But, the stamps are still Never Hinged, right? :-)

What did these hinges look like? Was it like a Post It Note type of mild adhesive that they used?

Back to the OP, I have seen some stamps with such a heavy HR that has deformed the stamp, the buckling visible from the front. I don't know whether that damage occurred immediately after the hinge was applied, or whether years later the hinge has slightly shrunk in size relative to the stamp and twisted the paper over time. But yes, heavy hinging can cause damage.
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Posted 11/16/2024   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In 1954 ,hinges were 10 cents a pack for 1,000 , So the price of Trupel was $1.00 but was it for a thousand or did you get a lot less ,pay 10X more and maybe get 10X less ? It is not clear .
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Posted 11/16/2024   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will stay with this method for my collection .
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Posted 11/16/2024   12:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/16/2024   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silhat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Floortrader : well, Dennisson were never an option in Europe, nor Fold-o hinges.

Seriously, considering the actual price for such hinges, it's the same problemn than using mounts : too much money for worthless stamps. I just took a look at ebay… it's crazy

I remember a conversation from years ago, where people said that the « receipt » for those Dennisson hinges was lost. Do you know if it's the case ? Nobody ever tried to replicate them ?

I will keep my printz hinges and, if needed, I would just soak the stamps again.
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Posted 11/16/2024   2:00 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Quite. You can sometimes happen upon a tin or packet of vintage European hinges - Rapkin, earlier Gibbons etc - but they're few and far between. Most of the offers on ebay UK are for empty Rapkin tins - or for a tin with some wrecked hinges.
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Posted 11/16/2024   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tsmatx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Silhat - checkout Don Denman's article on Stamp Smarter for discussion about the fate of Dennison's hinge recipe as well as attempts to replicate it.

https://stampsmarter.org/learning/G...ennison.html
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Posted 11/16/2024   8:58 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"The stamps after 1970 it makes little difference with a few exceptions like U.S.. All the hundreds of thousands different sets issued after the 1970's it make no difference with MNH and MH , with a few exceptions ."

Perhaps to you , but far from a universal truth.
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Posted 11/19/2024   12:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampwiz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Germania : TY for finding that ad. Could not for the life if me remember the name of the hinge. But I know I had seen the ad, and it was the early to mid-1950s.
Like I said, I have seen full Post Horn sets with the stain, as well as many of the higher value semi-Postals. I am wondering if some new issue and others dealers used them in sending out orders and approvals, etc.
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