Collecting By Engraver

Lithograving...here are some of the Cheffer from my collection...

Monaco 1923-Scott 50



Monaco 1923-Scott 55




Monaco 1926 Scott B29


Monaco 1942 B69



France 1956 Scott 815




France 1955 Scott 759



France 1957 Scott 836



France 1944 Cinderella from a Souvenir Sheet in Aid to Musicians featuring engravings by the "who's who" of French stamp engravers.



French Morroco- 1939 Scott C25




French Guinea 1914- Postage Due- Scott J19

Thanks for showing the 2 Prince Albert stamps.
That 1923 Monaco set was mentioned in the Cheffer article
in TimbresMAG but the illustrations were not in colour.

That 1957 was I believe Cheffer's last stamp he engraved
for France.

His design of Marianne ( la République de Cheffer) was used
for the 1967 definitives 10 years after his death.


Scott 1230

Rein, is that an example of direct(dark blue) and indirect (light blue) recess printing?

Etching , maybe?




BTW, you didn't mention it but the engraver was S.L. Hartz

I think it is one colour as in some of the lighter areas it grades into the dark blue and some of the engraved lines lighten in places to the colour of the abbey she is holding. Engravers sometimes did use acid to achieve an effect but it was extremely difficuklt to get right, but then Sem Hartz was an excellent engraver.

The lighter planes don't show much in the way of incision lines which also makes a combination of etching and engraving possible. Acid might also account for all the little splodges within the engraved grid.

When it was being produced in 1947 nobody could have envisaged that one day we would be viewing it blown up to 60cm.

As soon as I viewed the (two?) blues Abbey stamp, I immediately thought direct and indirect intaglio, as per Lithograving's view. Having now read jjarmstrong47's opinion, I think that either method could have been employed! GLENN

It is a pity that Joh. Enschedé are closing down the banknote printing department due to the lack of assignments for euro banknotes.

Recess printing was NEVER done in the stamp printing department but always in the banknote printing department. When postage stamps had to be done in recess they were done in the banknote printing department. Combinations with photogravure or offset-litho were scarce. Probably the last one was done for Germany around 2010 with railroad pictures.

I'll have to look it up.

I think the combination of etching and engraving the 3f50 Luxemburg stamp is the most likely explanation. Too early for indirect recess, some 10 years later for Belgium on a STIF-press.

So far I haven't seen any other stamp with etching and engraving combined apart from the VERY frequent use of screened recess in Luxemburg stamps printed in Haarlem! In those cases the plates wre etched as well.....

I agree with you there jjarmstrong47.

When I was posting the stamps engraved by Henry Cheffer I was
was thinking along those lines.
By showing the works of all these engravers of the past we are
honouring their achievements so they won't be forgotten.

Here is a Barlangue engraved stamp which I neglected to include
with his others on Page 202.
I usually follow the Phil-Ouest site for the chronological order
but they did not include this Barlangue stamp.
http://www.phil-ouest.com/Timbres.p...rlangue&Ordr br /

This is not the first time I noticed an error on this site
but then again nobody is perfect.
I should have crosschecked with Michel and/or Adrian's Stamp Engraver list.
Still all in all Phil-Ouest is a very useful site.



FRANCE 1949

Scott 627

Designer & Engraver : Gabriel-Antoine Barlangue

Emile Baudot 1845-1903
French telegraph engineer and inventor of the first means of digital communication, as per Wikipedia.

Lithograving...the Phil-Ouest is a great French stamp resource. but in the case of listing the complete output of certain 'artistes'...they do state "Cette liste n'est pas exhaustive"...meaning "this list is not complete"...explains a lot.

graphis, thanks for pointing that out to me.
So it would be an omission not an error.

I did notice an error just recently though while I was posting the Cheffer stamps.
As you can see from the screenshot Henry Cheffer was credited
with the design and engraving of the Holy Cross Abby stamp,
whereas it was by Raoul Serres (R.Serres inscribed on right edge)



I would notify the site regarding error(s) but my French is
trop pauvre but maybe you could inform them.

I mentioned a stamp earlier with muliple engravers. This one may take the record. It represents the work of a designer, an artist and five engravers.



According to the Arago website http://arago.si.edu/category_2033925.html " Clair Aubrey Huston designed the new Jefferson stamp. For his vignette, Huston used George F.C. Smillie's engraving of Jefferson that appeared on the 2-cent value of the 1904 Louisiana Purchase Exposition Series. Smillie used as a model for his engraving a portrait of Jefferson painted by Gilbert Stuart in 1805. Smillie's engraving was transferred to a new die and restored by John Eissler and Leo Kauffmann for use on the 1923 stamp. The stamp's frame was engraved by Edward M. Hall and Joachim C. Benzing.

Lithograving..i sent PhilOuest a note about the error.. i'll keep you posted! ( pardon the pun)

That's great graphis, thank you.

When I saw your Lucien Grimaldi Monaco stamp (Scott B29)
by Cheffer I couldn't resist placing it side beside
the 1967 Monaco Lucien Grimaldi ( Scott 675 ) engraved by Gandon.



I personally like the coloured version.

What do you think?



From the painting by Ambrogio de Predis

Lithograving...thanks for posting the Gandon colour version of the Lucien Grimaldi stamp...which I have in my Monaco collection but overlooked and didn't make the connection to the Cheffer version...i like both versions....but if I had to choose one...it would be the Gandon colour one....his engravings of works of art are on their own merit works of art,

It is an interesting comparison, isn't it. In my opinion Gandon has done a better job with the nose and eyes (compared to the painting) while Cheffer's got the mouth right. Gandon is more detailed with things like the creases on the neck which Cheffer has chosen to ignore.
Compared to either of them, most modern stamps are merely labels.