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Switzerland 1862-64 Sc#43-D Double Transfer

 
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Posted 04/23/2026   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Murasama to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'd like to show you this Swiss stamp from the 1862-64 issue. Although I've had it for a while, I'd never really looked at it closely, since I don't collect Swiss stamps and I bought it separately along with four others simply because I liked the colors and design. Today, while going through my sorters, I rediscovered it. I checked it against the Scott catalog, and surprise! The catalog number is SC#43, but in my opinion, it could be SC#43d, since a second corner print appears in the lower left corner, just as Scott points out. I'm attaching some photos so you can give your opinion, as it's a high catalog value.

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Posted 04/25/2026   03:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Murasama,although I have my doubts it is a double transfer, I do think this is some kind of constant plate flaw. So, you might be right,

I would advise you to contact the moderators and have your post moved to the Switzerland forum. We have at least two members who are highly knowledgeable on Swiss stamps and appear to have the Zumstein catalogue. They are not online frequently. Rather than have your post disappear to page x of the World Classic Stamp Forum, where the search functionality will never find it and no one looks, it will sit at the top of the Swiss forum that might be of interest to these Swiss specialists.
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Posted 04/25/2026   06:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NSK, I didn't know there was a specific section for Switzerland on the forum, I just found it. I'll try to get a moderator to move the question there and see if I get lucky and find some information...
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Posted 04/25/2026   11:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SBK says


Quote:
Doppelprägung der Wertziffer links unten und in FRANCO


which translates to

Double striking of the denomination numeral at the bottom left and within "FRANCO".

I believe all of the excitement is within the frame, not below it.

(The double striking, one inverted, is pictured in the catalogue; the above-mentioned double striking is not.)

Edit to add:

Here is a picture of the bottom of ZNr. 45.2.02 borrowed from ricardo.ch:



I didn't have much resolution to work with, but it shows what is going on, generally.

There you go, SCF'ers...something else to go look for in your Switzerland stock books.
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Edited by Cjd - 04/25/2026 12:19 pm
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Posted 04/25/2026   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a site that mentions a doubling of the image and assigns it SN43c. OP refers to a double entry that is Scott 43d.
Personally, I get the impression Scott is calling a lot of things double entries and OP's image does not really look like a double entry. But it has the printing in the lower left corner that Scott mentions according to the OP.

@Murasama, could you provide an image of the listing you are referring to?
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Edited by NSK - 04/25/2026 12:26 pm
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Posted 04/25/2026   12:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Edited by Murasama - 04/25/2026 12:55 pm
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Posted 04/25/2026   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott Classic has

Sc43d, double transfer of lower left 5.
and
Sc43c, double transfer, one inverted.

That matches the kopfstehen (inverted) listing in SBK.

The OP stamp is neither of these.
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Posted 04/25/2026   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. That is a clear reference to the "5" at the lower left and not to the lower left corner. What OP's stamp shows is near that "5" but not the '5."
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Edited by NSK - 04/25/2026 1:21 pm
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Posted 04/25/2026   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the catalogue image for Znr. 45.2.01 (the inverted double), which corresponds to Sc.43c:

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Posted 04/25/2026   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion, my example might show only the bottom corner of the tablet with the number 5 because it not began completely transfer. Perhaps if the double transfer were complete, the top part of the tablet would fit within the design, touching the other number 5.
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Edited by Murasama - 04/25/2026 2:26 pm
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Posted 04/25/2026   2:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@murasama, your study of stamps is admirable. However, the entry for Scott 43d is very clear in that it affects the number "5." It does not state that it is away from the number "5" and anything but the number "5."

I agree with you that it could be something affecting the printing plate. It may be transitory or repaired very soon after it occurred, it may be constant and unlisted. I do not think it was caused by foreign matter adhered to the printing plate. It, just, is not Scott 43d.
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Posted 04/25/2026   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Murasama to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll quarantine it... It really annoys me that nowadays, with the internet, it's so difficult to find images of these varieties, which sometimes only appear mentioned in catalogs. Naturally, they are rare stamps, but they seem like complete ghosts... If I had those stamps, I would show them on the web...
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Posted 04/27/2026   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add plate40 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott calling them double transfers when they're relief printed - more like typography than transferred engraving is such a Scotts thing.
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