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All that is needed is for Scott number one (any Country) to become Scott number zero or two and bam, you have a new system.
I find it hard to believe that Scott's claim to a system that uses whole numbers starting at one would not be laughed out of Court even if it takes a higher court. It is a ludicrous claim IMO. |
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Quote: What does the online access look like, is it a big pdf No, not a big pdf. There's actually a fair interface like you would find with a digital reader. There's some indexing with the table of contents so you can easily flip to different sections, a page turner, zoom, etc. I hadn't realized they had shut it down, but I guess I'm not surprised. Here's what you get when you try to log in:  |
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| Edited by Mainer - 05/01/2026 08:57 am |
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I was not being sarcastic. I meant it.
In the digital age maintaining old records is not always possible or worth the work. Forever access is only access until a company ends and the company you did business with ended. New companies rarely, if ever, buy the obligations from an old company, especially defunct or nearly so.
So, you lost, tough luck. Scream and shout all you want. Yours was an obligation Scott LLC need not honor and in fact they gave you a one year gift. Companies close and bail on obligations and then return with the same or similar name starting fresh going forward. Now you can contact an attorney to have you position reviewed, and perhaps take action all at a cost far, far exceeding your original outlay.
If you do not like the answers, you already identified other catalogues you can use, take your business elsewhere.
Edited to address the above post made while I prepared this one:
That is from AMOS they do not control Scott LLC and make no enforceable comments regarding the continued honoring of old Amos obligations. Not does Amos have the authority to saddle Scott LLC with said obligations. Again, to the OP, tough luck, you lost your "lifetime" in the same manner most other "lifetime" arrangements went away. Often it was bankruptcy which killed them. How many unlimited data lifetime internet and phone data plans are still being used. Most if not all have been killed off by creative and legal business changes. |
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| Edited by Parcelpostguy - 05/01/2026 12:43 pm |
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Sounds like a lot of dancing around -------"a new publisher " and "transitioned ownership " is not the same as saying "We sold the firm " . They are giving a new group of managers a chance to do something with what they have . So expect a lot of changes .........what can we expect ? That is easy for me to say ,because I been saying this same thing over the past ten years right here on this chatboard . 1} They will stop or limit the hard paper copy of the Scott Catalog 2} They need to sell their albums and speciality albums , those took a nose dive as prices went thru the roof 3}They will try to buy out Steiner Pages or make a agreement to add Scott numbers for like $150.00 per copy That will be the 3X the price of the Steiner disk . 4} They need to fix LINN'S STAMP NEWS so the easy way will be to duplicate ebay STAMP SECTION as a market place .They will collect the money and pay it out for their customers and make it a place for small transactions sort of taking the APS sales section .This can be done by paying out once a month not for every 25 cent transaction . Watch this "new" firm ,this firm is part of the BIG CHANGES to the hobby for 2026 . |
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Quote: Sounds like a lot of dancing around -------"a new publisher " and "transitioned ownership " is not the same as saying "We sold the firm ".... Yes AMOS was dancing. They did in fact sell off part of their company to a new owner operator which does not have the obligation to buy the obligation of AMOS; they bought the intellectual property outright. Now Scott LLC knows what it purchased and it is not necessarily what AMOS may claim. From my discussions with Scott LLC, it seems the purchase including buy some out dated electronic information which took and will take work to get up to current IT standards. Again, don't like it, there are other catalogs than Scott. |
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When you buy a company you generally buy their liabilities. That said, it takes a court to enforce such things. I believe only a bankruptcy court can remove liabilities.
It is possible that the previous company maintained that liability (it was not part of the sale) with the view of going bankrupt soon to eliminate them. |
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This was not a "buying a company," it was purchasing part of a company being sold--BIG DIFFERENCE. |
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My whole point is you don't buy a sinking ship ,the new management is looking at something that has potential that the present management doesn't see or understand . That can be, to have huge profits if these many other areas are are all wrapped together into a new business model . |
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| Edited by floortrader - 05/01/2026 1:30 pm |
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I would like to see a non-profit take over the Scott catalog numbering system, including the maintenance and upkeep of the system. It could contract to a for-profit entity to do some of the work associated with that maintenance. The Scott Company should publish catalogs, provide album pages - including custom ones, and develop and sell innovative solutions for collectors - things they can sell on subscription - things like AI-enabled stamp identification, catalog cross reference services, up-to-the minute pricing, digitization and modernization of philatelic literature (especially those in the public domain) - access through searchable text and chatbot interfaces. Stagnating and depending on owning the numbering system is not a recipe for growth and profits. If they don't innovate, the business model of selling paper catalogs and embarrassingly bad digital versions of the paper catalogs (and licensing/selling stamp supplies) is a losing one. . .I hope they innovate. . .the new owners have all the opportunity and incentives in the world with a trusted brand and deep connections to sell their products and services. |
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Just to be clear, I greatly dislike that I must login each time I wish to read a Linn's or Scott Stamp Monthly issue. Of course the auto-termination and relogging in is done to protect the intellectual property of Scott LLC, not the customer's convenience. That will not be changing any time soon. At least when I dig out my user name and pass code, I can read all the skipped weekly copies in about the same time it took to login to read one issue.
Scott Stamps LLC's needs are understandable yet does not make this customer happy. |
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Quote: I would like to see a non-profit take over the Scott catalog numbering system, including the maintenance and upkeep of the system And I would like to see the Scott numbering system disappear forever! But I digress ... |
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Quote: And I would like to see the Scott numbering system disappear forever! Okay, Scott numbers are gone. What identification system(s) do you suggest to replace them or no such system needed at all? |
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Quote: What identification system(s) do you suggest to replace them or no such system needed at all? An alphanumeric one like 1...2...3...4...5...1a...2b...3c...  Imagine the engineering it took for Scott to invent their numbering system. It is theirs, right? Patent protected. Starts at 1 (or C1 or 9X1...) |
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"I would like to see a non-profit take over the Scott catalog numbering system, including the maintenance and upkeep of the system. It could contract to a for-profit entity to do some of the work associated with that maintenance. The Scott Company should publish catalogs, provide album pages - including custom ones"
It is my understanding the Scott LLC only bought the catalog part of the business and that the albums remain with Amos. |
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