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Australia KGV Stamp With Os Perfin In An Inverted Way.rare?

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Posted 10/29/2011   01:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Bubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi to all the members in this forum once again.I have discovered one copy of australia KGV stamp with OS perfin in an inverted way.The letter OS stands for official service but the OS had been inverted on this stamp,that is mean the so stands for service official or just the word so for sure.Obviously,I would think this is certainly look special and interesting perfin in an inverted and also this is the only copy of the OS perfin in an inverted way compare with thousand of the same stamp with the OS perfin normally from my collection.Unfortunely,I am not sure if this OS perfin in an inverted way is considered rare and a new discovery or not.That is why I need help from the experts to identify if this perfin is genuine thing and let me know what I need to know over here.


Please give me your opinion and let me know what you think of it.I hope to hear from you very soon.Please refer to the scans below over here.


I will get back to you as soon as possible after your reply to me over here.Thank you.



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Posted 10/29/2011   02:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bubu
They do turn up every now and then so not a new discovery as far as value I'm not sure.

P.S. OS perfs are some times forged (a dealer was caught making them a while back here in Aust)
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Posted 10/29/2011   02:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Here is one that I have
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Posted 10/29/2011   02:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bubu, Could crop a LARGE close-up image of the area around the OS front. These Inverted OS perfins have been and still are easily made.
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Posted 10/29/2011   03:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bubu, found this Inverted OS in a bag, holding thousands of KGV 1d's, I purchased long ago. What ever happened to the other SO's on that sheet.
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Posted 10/29/2011   03:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Finches.

I was told (on that other site) the one I have looks a bit suss.
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Posted 10/29/2011   03:57 am  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Forgeries of the perfin type can even fool the experts.

Apparently in the 70's and 80's heaps of forgeries flooded the market.

Forgeries are a boil on the backside of the collector.
Greed now spoils a true perfin find.

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Posted 10/29/2011   04:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't collect Australia, so my remarks are just those of an interested observer.

There doesn't seem to be any 'bleeding' of the postmark into the back of the perforation holes on the OP's example. On the other hand, the postmark isn't very heavy over the OS, so perhaps there wasn't enough ink to bleed through to the back.
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Posted 10/29/2011   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bubu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aussie_AI,what do you think of my OS perfin on this stamp to be honest?Does it looks like genuine to you or not?The stamp with OS perfin really looks terrible especially the letter which is not so round and it looks like a fake OS perfin to me for sure,it is obvious showing on the scan on above.Anyway,I still need someone to confirm that the perfin is genuine because I do not know anything about the OS perfin and certainly not an expert at all on Australia stamps.I really hope someone who is an expert and can help me to identify this OS perfin is genuine or not.Anyway,your help is always apprieiciated from me.Thank you.
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Posted 10/29/2011   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bubu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Finches,do not rush me please and I will scan and crop the superlarge image of the OS perfin to show you over here on tomorrow because I am busy right now at this moment,hope you understand.Most of you might think the OS perfin is fake or hand made job but there is a guy called ozstamp would think it is genuine from his view because he has seen too many of fake stamps with OS perfin before just like the two scans showing on above there which look very obvious a fake OS perfin to me.Beside that,this guy probably is an expert in Australia stamps that what I believe.Please come back here to see the superlarge image of the OS perfin on tomorrow.Thank you for your replied over here.
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Posted 10/29/2011   11:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bubu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KGV_collector,what do you think of my stamp with inverted OS perfin?Do you think it is genuine or not?Honestly,it looks genuine to me and this is the biggest discovery in my life for sure?Did you ever sell any of this KGV stamp with an inverted perfin just like mine?I have the same stamp like you showing on your picture beside here but the only difference is the OS perfin in an inverted way and I have proud of it.Thank you for your replied to me over here.
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Posted 10/29/2011   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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there is a guy called ozstamp


Bubu, on a lighter note; In God we trust - not ozstamps.
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Posted 10/29/2011   9:35 pm  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello! Bubu.

Please do not get me wrong I am just trying to help.


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Forgeries of the perfin type can even fool the experts.


This is how easy it is to forge a perfin.
Overlay one upside down perfin over a normal stamp and using a hypodermic needle for a horse make the holes.
Can you see why true perfins get a bad name and how hard it is to tell a forgery?


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Forgeries are a boil on the backside of the collector.
Greed now spoils a true perfin find.


KGV Collector.
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Posted 10/30/2011   01:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bubu, KGV Collector is spot on.

Bubu, the unscrupulous cause havoc for owners of Genuine Inverted OS examples - As a practical eg I made these holes in 5 seconds with a common item found in Artists/Draughtsman's stationary.

You can see why it's negligent verifying authenticity of Inverted OS Perfins without hands on checks, by Experts, using high powered magnifying glass etc checking for subtle signs that are part of the genuine item over half a century old.
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Posted 10/30/2011   05:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bubu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Finches,I have scaned and scoped the superlarge image of the OS perfin and it is showing here below.Hopefully you will see it clearly right now and let me know what you think of it.Please enjoy yourself over here.Thank you.


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Posted 10/30/2011   06:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bubu, hello. I've tried 400% screen mag' but cannot see postmark bleeding either(Tonymacg) and two other signs supporting genuineness, BUT that still does not prove a Fake/Genuine item at this stage.

If any of the above collectors had the stamp in hand some supporting proof indicating a Genuine item 'might' be possible. Even experts have been deceived thus many collectors won't 'risk' good money.

Purchasing such an item, I'd want a signed legal document guaranteeing immediate money back if and when technology proved it's a fake.

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