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Posted 01/03/2012   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add joe1225us to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Check out
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...160707509760

This is a trimmed stamp. See the prefs on the bottom!
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Posted 01/03/2012   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave9911 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"This is a poorly trimmed stamp."

There, fixed it for ya!

Amazing what some try to pass off as imperf stamps.
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Posted 01/03/2012   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
lol
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Posted 01/03/2012   8:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Must have just been using "imperf" as an abbreviation for "imperfect"
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Posted 01/03/2012   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it is not a trimmed piece but rather an imperf as listed (314). The marks at the bottom of the Stamp increase in the distance between each one going from right to left, so I don't think it's a bad trim job. Also imagine the "Jumbo margins this one would have if I can see the top Guideline and still not see any perfs.....So if someone had a Stamp (300) with the largest margins ever on a 300 the premium for those margins certainly would produce a higher bid than a questionable imperf ?
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Posted 01/03/2012   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joe1225us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't think so! Seems to me to be a corner stamp (hence the large margin and guidelines). The prefs are clearly visible across the bottom.
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Posted 01/03/2012   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are all wrong. It's clearly a #316(vertical coil) that has been trimmed to fool you into thinking it is a poorly trimmed #300(perf) used to fake a #314(imperf). It was very common to do this, which is why #316 is so rare. Most of them were foolishly used by forgers to make #314!




But seriously, I suspect it is actually a booklet single from #300b (for example, from pane position 13E, right middle stamp) that has been somewhat poorly trimmed at top/left/bottom. Perforations/guillotine on booklets are notorious for significantly off. In the example shown in the listing, the right edge is the only side that appears perfectly straight. The bottom edge clearly shows some divots that match the proper spacing. In addition, the larger parts of the other margins (toward left of top margin, and toward bottom of left margin) seem to hint at a possible divot or two. Just my guess.
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Posted 01/04/2012   12:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joe1225us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree with KHJ, which is why I wrote a corner stamp, either of a sheet or booklet.
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Posted 01/04/2012   07:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raywrio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The seller has delisted the item in question. I wonder if he/she reads SCF?
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Posted 01/04/2012   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have purchased items from this seller before without any issues. Also I stick to my theory that this is an imperf and not a scissor perf trim. I do not believe the indents on the bottom of the stamp were perfs as the spacing between them isn't right. The margins are too large for it to be a 300 trimmed down to make it appear to be a 314 and I don't think it's a vertical coil as I can see the top guideline but no perforations.
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Posted 01/04/2012   08:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joe1225us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"The seller has delisted the item in question. I wonder if he/she reads SCF?"

I notified him that it was a fake!

" I have purchased items from this seller before without any issues. "

So have I. But this is a fake.


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Posted 01/04/2012   09:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Joe, it is not a fake, it is a 100% genuine US Postage Stamp,the question here, was it misidentified ?
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Posted 01/18/2012   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marko1959 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow good call on this fake....
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Posted 01/18/2012   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it was nice of him to get rid of those nasty perfs. They do make a stamp look so unsightly.
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Posted 01/18/2012   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the victim I captured before it disappears from Ebay.

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Posted 01/18/2012   1:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
sure looks like perfs on the bottom to me.

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