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US 572 - Capitol Hill - Something Seems Wrong With This One

 
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Posted 07/16/2017   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ananthveerappan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Folks - Let me know if this stamp looks alright - Seller claims NH but doesn't offer returns.

  • The Front scan shows a bend that is not visible from the back scan

  • The Plate number fonts seem off

  • It looks like a diagonal crease on the back - not mentioned in the sale description

  • Plate# ink spreads in the back seem off





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Posted 07/16/2017   6:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The scanning failure creates the impression that there is a horizontal, post-printing crease on the stamp.

It appears to be careless work by the seller in presenting this image.
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Posted 07/16/2017   6:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The horizontal aberration which runs across above the dome is a shifting during scanning and is not a fault. But based on the diagonal mark on the reverse side, I would not buy it at any price.
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Edited by John Becker - 07/16/2017 9:17 pm
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Posted 07/16/2017   6:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is anyone sure the aberation across the face is a scanning error?

The OP has not addressed it...
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Posted 07/16/2017   6:31 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I am sure. Note the image distortion that is occurring beyond the stamps (on the sides). The stepper motor in the scanner double clutched.
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Posted 07/16/2017   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most definitely a typical scanner error.

The diagonal crease is a gum crease, natural and common enough for the issue. It's heavy enough that if it hasn't creased through the stamp already, it will eventually.

Sellers don't point out flaws all the time, especially on eBay. Do you do that when selling your used car or appliance, especially when you don't know a problem is present? At least the seller was good enough to show the back to let the buyer decide. Some education and due diligence is necessary on the part of potential buyers.

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Posted 07/16/2017   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, I agree with your diagnosis above. Years ago I used to service video printers and have seen that happen. My question: Why did it not show on the other scan?

Peter

PS. I am very well aware of all the weird things that electronics can do. You do not have to answer this question!
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Posted 07/16/2017   7:53 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Peter,
My first thought was a power issue, a situation where the power glitched during the first scan (i.e. AC power surge, USB power may have hiccupped, etc.). Old scanners used to be belt driven...but these are just guesses. We would have to know the scanner model to narrow it down a bit more.
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Posted 07/16/2017   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
He may have just bumped the scanner while scanning and didn't notice
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Posted 07/16/2017   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The fact that the perforations look too close together on the distorted part of the front picture but not on the back picture points to a scanner imaging problem.
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Posted 07/16/2017   9:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The distorted band seen on front is also on the back image, ending with the same odd perfs, but it is above the plate number.
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Edited by littleriverphil - 07/16/2017 9:05 pm
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Posted 07/17/2017   02:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
perhaps its just me, but looks like the plate number has moved from front to back scan? its closer to the edge
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Posted 07/17/2017   06:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The plate number size difference (larger "14", smaller "306") is normal for F14306. All examples from that plate will show this phenomenon.

The plate number on back is an offset, rather common on these flat plate issues.

The "bend" on front is definitely a scanning aberration.

The natural gum crease on back appears to be significant (damaging the paper as well). It should have been described by the seller and will lower the value of the stamp.
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Posted 07/17/2017   10:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ananthveerappan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you folks...

The gum crease definitely brings down the value of this otherwise nice stamp. Great to know about that Plate Number and Ink Offset variance.
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