Russian Stamp

Hello.
Can you help me about this stamp ? It' s seems like the Scott 41 but it's 44 x 33 millimeter. Scott Number and value please. Thanks.

Greetings from Switzerland

Hello wachoo,

Are you sure about your measurements? They would make this stamp significantly larger than the Russian high values of the period.

The postmark appears to be YALTA.

Hello nigelc,

I've put a new pic about this stamp. You can see the difference between a normal stamp (Scott 42) and the "big size" stamp (44 x 33 millimeter, perforated
11 1/2 - 11 ).

Nobody can help me about this stamp ? :-(

It had me scratching my head,
I was waiting, holding my breath for an answer too.
We have to be patient.
SCF cracks all queries :)

Can we have a close look at the back of the stamp, please?

Here is the back of this stamp. Thanks for your help rod222

I'll put it to a friend in a Newsgroup I know,
see what he comes up with.
Hang tight.

Thanks very much rod222

I thought maybe something went wrong in Finland with the 1891 issue, but no track at all in my catalogues. Now I am waiting an answer too ;).

Thanks Wadmalatz. The finnish stamps have "dot in circle" and at this stamp the postmark appears to be Yalta !!
A finnish stamp in Crimea ? Impossible but.......

Hi wachoo, welcome!

On the back of the stamp, why is the dotted outline for where a stamp should be placed showing? Why isn't this stamp or another places in that rectangle? Another way to put it, why is this stamp affixed to the wrong side of the envelope paper?

Or, possibly, is this stamp quite thick compared to it's smaller cousin? Is this perhaps a part of a postcard that has been canceled and perforated?

I am playing Mr bad guy right now. I really am nice, really.

It is just that the dotted outline is not seen in many places except where stamps should be placed to my perhaps limited knowledge.

Hello Puzzler


Thanks for your Welcome

Actually the patch was still stuck on paper. I've took off.

A new pics about the back without paper.



PS : sorry for my english I speak french :-)

I think puzzler is not being bad, just logical.

There does not exist any 4k Imperial stamp in such dimensions. The 4k stamps with thunderbolts across the posthorns, either on horizontally (Scott 41) or vertically laid paper (Scott 57C) have the dimensions of the 10k stamp you show.

There were 11 1/2 perforators by 1904 (see Scott 68a), but I think we are dealing here with some kind of fascimile - maybe a stamp image on the picture side of a postcard. It might be that the Yalta cancel is also a fake, but only an expert would tell you this.

Hello

Thanks Vasia for your analysis.

Why made a facsimile like this ? It's not salable !

My enquiries on another NG was fruitless,
two very knowledgeable collectors were puzzled also.

What throws me, is the perforations and paper look genuine.

Thanks for posting a real enigma!
I like these sorts of queries :)

It's good you took a scan prior,
otherwise you may have washed off a clue.

Can we have a <real> close up of
the backgound filagree work please ?
That may indicate whether someone is having
a prank.

I checked Michel and a russian catalog I have - nothing. Showed this also to a dealer friend of mine that sells quite a lot of Russia - never seen anything similar...

Possibly the experts could say something about the postmark. Real or not? If it's real, then the stamp could be some sort of postal forgery or printers waste that has passed to postal system. If the postmark is fake, then the stamp is very likely a fake too...