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Rest in Peace
Canada
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Posted 02/22/2011   06:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there a modern era postcard that has this picture on it? Of a stamp from an older era?

Or perhaps some advertisement or literature from a stamp exhibition / exposition? This has happened before with some British literature.

The perfs are the hard thing to imagine someone going to all the trouble to make them seem real though.
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Switzerland
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Posted 02/22/2011   08:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wachoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello

Thanks all.

For Rod222 here a new scan (made with a microscop) of the back. It's seems there is no filagree.

Regards from Switzerland, land of the banks, home of chocolate





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Edited by wachoo - 02/22/2011 08:48 am
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Switzerland
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Posted 02/23/2011   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wachoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No more news about this stamp ?
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Edited by wachoo - 02/23/2011 11:37 am
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Posted 02/23/2011   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
[quote][The perfs are the hard thing to imagine someone going to all the trouble to make them seem real though.

/quote]

Well, I really can`t imagine what happened.or maybe?

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Posted 02/23/2011   6:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wachoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A new scan about perforation.



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Posted 02/23/2011   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Sorry Wachoo!
what I meant was a large scan of the
"dots on the front" so we could see if it
had been enlarged.
However, I have had advice elesewhere this cannot
be so.

SOLVED ?
I have had a private email, with the answer
and from SCF, but I do not want to steal their thunder
So perhaps they shall post soon.


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Switzerland
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Posted 02/24/2011   02:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wachoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Rod

Thanks for all.
I've put a new scan about the top.

What means "Dots on the front" ? I don't understand .....

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Edited by wachoo - 02/24/2011 02:24 am
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Posted 02/24/2011   02:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Last night I read about Fournier forgeries of Russian era Finnish stamps. He had a habit of using real paper, that he obtained from the margins of Finnish/Russian ruble value sheets. Such a practice could explain how this item was made too.

I would assume the filigran pattern and paper on this are identical to real one, as they are obtained from sheet margins (or otherwise) of same era stamps. Possibly even the perforation is real, as some Russian ruble high values have 11˝ perf.

But the print and postmark. If this is a forgery, these should show some differences to real ones. Wachoo - can you do a real close up scan of the front of stamp?
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Posted 02/24/2011   02:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Wachoo,
I meant this.
But that was before we established that
enlargement had not occurred.
(I was thinking perhaps digitally enlarged design)


The solution I received was from a "Nigel"
and I am not sure if it is our highly respected
fellow on SCF, or not.

Cheers
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Switzerland
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Posted 02/24/2011   04:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wachoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello all

For scb, my name is Fournier too, but i'm not the famous forgerer

And new scan close up









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Edited by wachoo - 02/24/2011 04:56 am
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Posted 02/24/2011   05:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vasia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wachoo,

can you please give us the diameter of the Yalta postmark on the "stamp"
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Posted 02/24/2011   06:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks wachoo...

I'm not an expert with old Russia, but to me it seems very different to real thing that I scanned for comparison from my collection. With it the background lines are straight, with your item they look "bumpy / not straight". And all in all, the print quality seems inferior with this one... So I'd say it seems like a fake of some sorts.
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Edited by scb - 02/24/2011 06:57 am
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Posted 02/24/2011   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Wachoo,
Hope this helps

here is the solution I received this morning
that solves the riddle.
From a Bryan ****
(name withheld to preserve privacy)

I think a UK email addy.

--------------------------

Dear Bryan

I have seen large stamps like this before. All that I have seen were produced by dealers for advertising purposes. He appears to have had a friend in the post office at Altai which is what I make of the cancel.

Again nearly all that I have seen originate from around 1910 to 1925.

regards

Nigel
----------------------------
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Posted 02/24/2011   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wachoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello

The diameter of the "yalta" postmark is 28 mm.

Can you tell me if this "stamp" has value? Is it sellable?
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Australia
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Posted 02/24/2011   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Everything is sellable....
put it up for auction here, I'll bid for it wachoo.
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