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Search Words For Ebay And The Why?

 
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Posted 04/12/2011   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add KGV Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Lots of people are collecting stamps in many different ways.
It would be interesting to know how you search ebay.

What are your search words for ebay?
Do you read the description in the listing?
How important to you is the gallery image for that listing?
Always Happy Stamping. KGV
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Posted 04/12/2011   9:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks KGV Collector, actually been wondering the same thing!
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Posted 04/12/2011   10:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add beezer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good Evening,

1. What are your search words for ebay?

I check ebay once a day to see new listings of stamps for South Korea. For me personally, I just search "korea" and on the left column I filter the results by selecting "stamps." From there I just browse the day's worth of listings and watchlist whatever is of interest to me. Recently I have begun doing the same types of daily searches for Ethiopia. In the event I am searching for a specific stamp I'll search something like "country" + "year" or "country" + "catalogue number."

2. Do you read the description in the listing?

I always read the description in the listing, especially if seriously considering placing a bid.

3. How important to you is the gallery image for that listing?

The gallery image is crucial. If the image is of poor quality or if the stamp doesn't match the description then I move on. In the event there isn't even a gallery image I skip over that listing.


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Posted 04/12/2011   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vacuum man to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Though I live in the US one thing I usually do occasionally is to bypass ebay.com all together and go to ebay. ca -- I get the same listings but I also get the shipping amount at the same time.

sorry about the space the editor will not allow a CA after the dot
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Edited by vacuum man - 04/12/2011 10:54 pm
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Posted 04/12/2011   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's funny vacuum man. I live in Canada, but prefer ebay.com. When I list, .com gives me numbers for viewings as well as watchers. .ca only shows me the watchers.
When shopping, I always read descriptions (though not always carefully enough) and the image is crucial. And yes, if the image doesn't match the description, I'm gone. The seller is either being deceptive or is sloppy.
When selling, I always try to describe completely, even faults. I don't like surprises when a stamp I've purchased comes and has 'unexpected qualities', and I'm sure my customers feel the same way.
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Posted 04/12/2011   11:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Always been a dot com seller/buyer for years with my fishing tackle but US $ was always worth more than Canada. Now by the time paypal beats up the exchange its another 10% loss. Just listed some new imperf coils today on .ca for that reason.
I generally use category to specific country and then do random search phrases just to see what comes up. Be amazed even misspellin stuf will pul up rezults. I also find .com and .ca not always with duplicate results . Sorting by ending soonest usually to see if any quick deals and then newly listed so I don't wonder why I've seen that picture before.
Below link to one of the imperf coil auctions I have up . If innapropriate I'll remove but its saves an ebay search!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...RK:MESELX:IT
If Anyone from SCF is interested in any of these imperf coils in various blocks or positions I will of course take care of members appropriatly
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Canada
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Posted 04/12/2011   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi KGV, I am back again,

To me the terms used in the Title of the listing are for people searching for Key words and also when they are just browsing, then Key words jump out at them.

Example, if you are searching for Flowers on Stamps you could search for flowers and narrow it down by country category after that.

Or search for flowers and then go to Topical category.

If you just start only with choosing the topical flowers category from the start (seemingly simpler I agree) then you will miss listings that are listed under the different country categories (which can sometimes change depending on which ebay site you sign in to).

Listings can be entitled just by their catalogue number (different catalogues worldwide and so different numbers, tricky wicket), by different languages or terms, Flower = Flora = Fleur, etc, by specific names like Roses or Pansies or Pansy (not all ebay searches will find plurals of a word, check for yourself first), by just the country name, Hungary set, Magyar Posta stamps, Ungarn Briefmarken, etc, by descriptive adjectives like Pretty or Colourful or (strangely enough) Fabulous or Beautiful Stamps Mixture.

Lots of people use the L@@K word(?) which I never search for personally or some such term or name that once you like a person or seller you can always find their listings by searching for all listings that use that word in the title. (Not recommended by me.)

Things that help in a title are things that people look for and even sometimes search for. It pays to learn what these words are, what words the best sellers use, how they use them, when they use them, how they CAPITALIZE THEM (Or Not).

There are certain words that people are attracted to because they evoke emotions. Example SALE or NEW or NICE or BEAUTIFUL or others but, I caution everyone reading this on this fact, the overuse of these words will actually dull the emotions after repeated reuse. Once in a while is OK. Not all the time.

CAPITALS are touted and bragged up by some but I think the same ruling applies to them too. Overuse is a bad thing. Keep it civilized, businesslike, friendly and to the point.

You can never force people to buy your stamps but you can become the friendliest, most easy to deal with, straight forward and to the point type of guy, and most importantly, represent what is actually offered for sale as what it actually is, to the best of your knowledge. Trust is a must for repeat business.

There are only so many people who will buy your stamps the way that you sell them (unfortunately). You want a lot of those people to come back and see what you might be up to this week or month or year. And you want them to tell their friends and recommend you. Sounds simple but it not always is.

Back to searching or reading listing titles (basically the same thing when you get down to it).

The Title is for people to Notice you, whether by searching for a word important to them or by seeing a nice presentation of an idea or wording whilst browsing. If they don't look or skip by you (as mentioned above in another post) then nothing else you do will make a difference.

The Gallery picture is also key to get people to look and Click In to See More.

The title and picture are the first things people see. You want to make a good first impression. I know, I know, that is not always possible, people are different, feel differently on different days, get distracted, are bored.

You can't please all the people all the time as the saying goes. But if they can see that you are being careful and put care into your titles and listings and pictures (and descriptions), that is a big first step in getting people to come on in and peruse your wares.

People look after their friends first rather than strangers first (usually) and if you care about your stamps and titles and pictures and how you are presenting your products (and therefore yourself) they will get the feeling that you will probably care about them too, a lot more than the guy who uses titles like COME IN AND BUY NOW, LOOK LOOK, WONDERFUL. Hmmm?

Perhaps I stretch the point beyond the breaking point, yes?

Just think, what would attract me and get me to look and perhaps to buy something? How do I like to see things displayed? What do I look for?

Beyond the fact that people use different languages and terms and names and catalog numbers there lies the common understanding of the picture. If the picture is dull and dark and out of focus and not centered well and all that stuff then that kind of turns people away too. No picture at all is kind of scary.

There is the point that you, and I mean You, the guy who is writing and slaving over this listing, is the one whose responsibility it all is, But even if you mis-spell words and get the picture wrong somehow and the description could have been written better if you hadn't been so tired and sick and distracted, the feeling of your caring will come through all of that and impress people and give them the confidence to trust you (or ask questions which is another topic) and purchase from you. Slick techniques will get you through the door sometimes but if you don't care even a smidgen you had better have your running shoes on because that's a foot being aimed at your backside.

Caring words by Puzzler
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Posted 04/13/2011   09:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ionut77 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice topic KGV.

I'm searching sometime in the afternoon, sometime even each day. I'm searching not only on Austrian ebay but also on co.uk and .com
As I'm looking to 4 countries and always not wanting to spend hours searching for my collection, I need to be "quick" in my search.
Therefore:
1. What are your search words for ebay?
Normally I'm going in the category specific for the country I'm looking, let's say Austria.
If I want to see what collections or lots are on the market I simply use the search advance and set "min. number of bids to 1". If there is a collection or something interesting to be sold, It can't be that there is no bid. Well... I'm lazy but up to now worked really OK. It's easy than to look on all the items that are to be sold.
If it's a set I'm looking for then I'm searching the year. Because it's not easy with cat. no as some doesn't specify the cat. no. or there is Michel and I'm looking for Scott or viceversa.
And... when I see in my search a "L@@K" for me that means "don't look" because usually there is nothing to look at! :)

2. Do you read the description in the listing?
When it's time to buy, the description is really important. But not so important for me as no. 3

3. How important to you is the gallery image for that listing?
First of all, in the search results the image is in more than 80% of the cases the hint for me to open the item and look in detail. Rarely I'm opening the item if the image says me nothing. It must have a really great no. 2 (short description)
Then, on the detail page, the images are simply the trigger to buy it. I don't remember buying something without an image. And... if it's about MNH items, the image is the one that shows me how the item looks like.

Hope it helps.
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Posted 04/13/2011   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cephus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I'm looking for something specific, I'll put in Scott# under the stamp category. Anyone who doesn't know what a Scott# is probably isn't someone I want to buy stamps from. Pictures and detailed descriptions are essential, I have to know what I'm going to be getting and if they can't even describe the stamp, along with any faults, why would I want it? If I get a stamp that isn't as described, I need some means to prove to ebay that the listing was faulty, how can I do that if the listing is vague?
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Posted 04/14/2011   01:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Search words are very important for SCF titles as well.
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Edited by KGV Collector - 04/14/2011 01:12 am
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Posted 04/14/2011   08:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuhli to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
as I am focused only on stamps from Yugoslavia, my search criteria is tailored to my focus. I use a 2-pronged approach for searching ebay.

my primary search is in the general category of "Stamps", and I list all the key spellings, including a few common mis-spellings. (Yugoslavia,Yugoslavija,Jugoslavia,Jugoslavija,Jugoslawien,Yougoslavie) [the second and third are the mis-spellings, the last 2 are German and French]. this helps me catch anything that may be listed in "orphan" categories, like Stamps>Lots or Stamps>Topicals, etc.

my secondary search is in the actual category of Stamps>Yugoslavia, which gives a lot less results than the above method, but does manage to catch some stuff that doesn't come out in the above method. surprising how many sellers will omit the country name in the title when they are listing in that countries specific category.
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Posted 04/18/2011   07:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
3. How important to you is the gallery image for that listing?

Like everyone I like to see a good image of what I buy. BUT one time I took a chance on a collection of Greenland. The description was for an mnh collection in a Lindner album almost complete to 1997. The images were taken with a camera and the picture were not very good. I bid on it and got it for a low price. I think some potential bidders let it go because of the bad pictures. Usually it's good to have good images when you buy a lot or a collection to check the catalogue for values and be sure you don't get only low ones in the collection. Daniel
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