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Germania #137 - 1919

 
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Posted 05/06/2011   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Bob de Diego to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


Am I right?

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Posted 05/06/2011   4:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add butterfly to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I find it in Scott under German States--Bavaria #177 (1919)
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Posted 05/06/2011   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add butterfly to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lets see if we can't straighten this out.
I looked in my 94 Michel and found it to be #137 (1919)
Germania stamp with "Freistaat Bayern" overprint.
I had to manipulate the photo with Gimp to make the overprint visible.
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Posted 05/08/2011   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bob de Diego to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much butterfly, I will look into it, I have several of those, all in the same condition, I will keep just a couple and sell the rest.

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Posted 05/08/2011   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bob,

Michel lists blackish brown as the basic color in this issue, with two valuable color variants (brown to olive brown - 50x value, black brown - 133x value). It also lists a plate flaw, incomplete head of "F" in "Freistaat" (Mi 137 I).
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Posted 05/08/2011   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bob de Diego to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What would you consider a good starting value for the one on this post?, I will look for the others and post images as soon I find them

I will keep just 2, I'm sure that there are around 10 or 12 of them. :)


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Edited by Bob de Diego - 05/08/2011 2:44 pm
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Hi PostmasterGS,

I'm intrigued by your comments below:


Quote:
Bob,

Michel lists blackish brown as the basic color in this issue, with two valuable color variants (brown to olive brown - 50x value, black brown - 133x value). It also lists a plate flaw, incomplete head of "F" in "Freistaat" (Mi 137 I).


My old Michel German Specialised (1999) doesn't give a basic colour for this value but it does list the two shade groups that you mentioned as #137a brown to olive brown and #137b blackish brown [black brown]. However, it gives #137a a much lower price (2.75 DM used) than it does #137b (100 DM used).



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Posted 05/08/2011   2:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bob de Diego to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now I'm confused :P

The one on this post will be a or b, neither?
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Edited by Bob de Diego - 05/08/2011 3:24 pm
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Sorry. Probably shouldn't have called blackish brown the "basic color." It's the most common, low-value color.

(MH/MNH/U) in Euro

137a -- brown to olive brown (15/30/50)
137b -- blackish brown (.30/.60/2.50)
137c -- black brown (40/80/120)

There's no way to tell which color this one is in the abstract. With colors this close in shade, the only way to really tell which one it is would be to compare it to an exemplar or to the swatches in Michel's color guide.
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Edited by PostmasterGS - 05/08/2011 4:59 pm
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Posted 05/08/2011   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi PostmasterGS,

Thanks for making this clear. This makes much more sense than the prices in my old catalogue.
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