Hinged Stamps Etc A Questioin

Hello everybody, I hope this is the right forum for this, if not I am sorry. My first question has to do with MOGNH stamps. In looking up a stamp I saw a 4 stamp set that was 47.00 unused. It was valued at 83.00MOGNH, almost double. If you have just 1 stamp from that set that is MOGNH does it's value also double as a single stamp from that set? I hope this is the proper forum for this topic. I am sure it has been discussed before but I did not know where to look for it.
Thanks
David

Are you referring to US stamps or stamps from another country?

Values for multiples (i.e. blocks) rather than single stamps generally depends on the specific stamp and its relative scarcity. There are some items that would be difficult to find in a block format and therefore command a higher value than a single stamp.

Give us some additional information as to the catalog number of the stamp you are referring to ... or better yet, post a scan of it ... and I'm sure there will be members on this site willing to give you their opinion.

Remember that for US stamps, the Scott catalog defines most stamp values as a specimen in VF condition. Many times, especially with older issues, centering is a major issue and will negatively affect value.

Hello wt1, The stamps I saw today in the catalog were identified for me earlier in another forum. they are 1941 Serbia #'s 2NB9a and 2NB9b. When I looked at the values for them I noticed a MOGNH price for the set but not for single stamps for that set. That is why I was asking. I generally don't care to much about value as I collect what is visually appealing to me. It was just one of the many things I don't know about this hobby and I was curious about whether this was a general rule.
Here is the scan. These two are also MOGNH.
many thanks
David

David,

In 2009 Scott valued each unused stamp at $.35 and the set at $1.40 (4X$.35). Given that formulation, I would say that the $3.00 valuation in 2009 for a NH set was most likely calculated with each stamp having a NH value of $.75.

Steve

Hi tomiseksj, That is what I was wondering. I kind of thought that but really didn't know. I thought that if a never hinged set went for a premium a never hinged single shoud also. If the 4 stamps had 4 different valies would the same rule apply using a different formula. Sorry about nitpicking it to death but I am just trying to fully understand how this works.Thank you for the information.
David

I have a question David about your acronym MOGNH which
I suppose stands for Mint Original Gum Never Hinged.

This is new to me, then again I don't get out much.

Wouldn't MNH be adequate, since obviously the MINT part
in MNH means more or less the condition of the stamp
when issued or when purchased at the post office ?

Hi lithgraving, I don'e see why not, MOGNH is just the way I learned to put it as I got started in stamps. To me though it also shows the gum is the original gum and hasn't been regummed.
Thanks
David

Heh David no problem, it's just that I never heard of that term
before. Obviously you can call it anything you want.

Actually though if you check Scott's Introduction under
Gum Categories: Mint Never Hinged means Free from any disturbance

Usually all stamps in a set will have the same premium for NH, but not always. At times, some of the values are issued in different formats so the survival ratio of MNH is higher for some stamps in the set then others. Example is when a booklet pane was issued with some of the values, those values typically are easier to find in MNH then those issued only in sheets.


(Thinking about Germany here, specifically)

lithograving, When I first started collecting stamps I didn't even have a catalog for the first year. Not being a typical collector, I bought things (stamps and covers) that were visualy appealing to me. I don't try to collect every stamp of a certain country or topic, I just collect what I like. Most of the stamps I bought were bought through ebay. The majority that I saw were called MOGNH and that is what I have always called them. I don't read the catalogs as thorougly as I should. I guess it comes down to the way you learned it. I call a soft deink a soda and my friend in Connecticut calls it a pop but it means the same thing.
Thanks
David

san_onofre_collection, Thanks for that info, I really appreciate it.
David

DAVID------The answer is no ,it would not have a premium value .
First ,the people who purchase MNH stamps most likely only purchase complete sets ,so your average collector wouldn't pay extra for it .Second it is a low value stamp and will only bring a few cents ,its a common stamp.I purchase MNH stamps but your talking much bigger dollars .

Hi floortrader, That is the listing for the 2NB9. These stamps are the 2Nb9a and 2NB9b in the listing below that. They list foe 11.00 each.
Thanks
David

David we call it pop here in Canada too, at least in Ontario.
Don't know about Quebec though. Le pop, maybe?

Anyway you're right there are lots of different terms for the same
thing.
I seem to recall in another forum I participated in a while ago
which was based in Australia, they used the acronym MUH which stands for Mint Un Hinged I believe
or is it MOOO.
Or take other terms like Souvenir Sheet SS (in the US & Canada)
is called Miniature Sheet M/S in GB, Australia and in Europe they
call them Blocks. And then there are sheetlets or small panes
of 6, 8, 15, 16 or whatever number fits nice which are issued by
Canada Post.

lithograving , Thanks for the reply. It's a lot to learn and that is why I joined this forum. There is a vast amount of knowledge here and I have learned a lot in the short time I have been here.
Thanks
david

David,

Those are Mi 56 A III and 56 A IV. The "A" denotes the variety with the little points in the network background pointing down. The "III" denotes the un-colored E facing left, and the "IV" with the E facing right.

The 2011 Michel Specialized lists them at identical prices, 20 EUR for MNH, and doesn't list a MH price.

And FYI, here's what the four varieties (I-IV) look like in a full half-sheet. Notice that there are only two III's and two IV's per sheet.