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Mailer's Postmark Permit 63399 - Spray On Cancel

 
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Posted 08/06/2011   7:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This may be commonplace to some, but seems unusual to me. Have you ever seen a spray-on cancel for a Mailer's Postmark Permit with "Mailed from Zip Code xxxx" and no date?



It was applied to a charity solicitation letter I received today. The interesting thing is that the spray-on cancel makes it difficult to read the "mailed from zip code" information. I thought it to be 18890, but upon looking it up on the USPS web site, that zip code does not seem to exist.

Any ideas about this? I assume it's a mailing service that is preparing these solicitation letters, but it sure seems they go through a lot of extra steps to apply a Non Profit Org. stamp, and an MPP cancel, when the same thing could be accomplished with a "Postage Paid" indicia.



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Posted 08/07/2011   07:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dianne Earl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Just waiting for update.

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Posted 08/07/2011   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
3.4.6 Design and Content of Mailer's Postmark
The mailer's precancel postmark must contain specific elements:

a. The mailing date (day, month, and year) if used on First-Class Mail; the month and year of mailing may be shown on Standard Mail.

b. The words "Mailer's Postmark" followed by the permit number and enough lines to deface (cancel) the postage.

c. Either the city, state, and 5-digit ZIP Code of the Post Office where the precancel permit is held and the mailing is to be deposited, or the words "Mailed From ZIP Code" followed by the 5-digit ZIP Code of the mailing office. (If that Post Office is assigned more than one 5-digit ZIP Code, the precancel postmark must show the 5-digit ZIP Code assigned to the postmaster.)


The above is from the Domestic Mail Manual, Section 604 [ http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/604.htm#1080435 ]. It appears that the mailing date is required for First-Class mail but is optional for Standard Mail.

I've gone through my limited collection of MPPs and none include a date. Here are a few examples:



A Google search turned up a study on questionnaire returns that was published in the Journal of Marketing Research, May 1978 that suggests a psychological reason for stamp usage:


Quote:
...Historically, it has been shown that the use of a stamp elicits a significantly higher rate of return than does the permit-return business reply envelope [6]. Erdos [2] ascribes this differential return rate to the fact that stamps represent money to potential respondents whereas business reply envelopes do not...He also states that the permit-return envelopes give the appearance of junk mail and stamps effect a more personal note...

Source: http://www.jstor.org/pss/3151265


There may also be a cost advantage to using the MPP rather than a permit indicia.
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Edited by tomiseksj - 08/07/2011 09:56 am
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Posted 08/07/2011   12:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info. I wasn't necessarily questioning the franking of the MPP, but the "Mailed from..." reference. After some study, I finally figured out that the "Mailed from" Zip Code was 15390 (Pittsburgh, PA). Yet another reason why spray-on cancels, even by Mailer's Postmark Permit standards, are ugly, and very often unreadable.
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Posted 08/07/2011   1:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I misunderstood your focus -- I honed in on the "and no date" aspect of the initial post.

I fully agree that spray-on cancels leave much to be desired from a collector's point of view but I imagine to a mass-mailer (and the USPS), ink not used is money saved.
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Posted 08/07/2011   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No need to apologize. I just look at these "newer" MPP's and compare them to the ones used a decade ago, and the differences are astounding. Here's an especially nice one printed crisp and clear, which is seldom seen today:

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Posted 08/07/2011   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sadly, I think what we're seeing today regarding the poor quality of postal markings in general is a trend that will continue.
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Posted 08/15/2011   07:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The illegible zip reads 13290. Syracuse NY 13290 I tried other combinations but none were assigned. I'm still not positive on the 3 might be an 8 but that is not assigned. That is an odd looking spray-on as there is no time and date?
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Posted 08/15/2011   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
16290 - not assigned
18290 - not assigned

This really makes me curious as to the origins of this note?
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Posted 08/15/2011   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coinsearcher83 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there a reason why some of these nonprofit stamps get cancelled and others don't? (Or is this question answered in the quote above?)

Most of the nonprofit (presort, bulk rate) stamps I receive aren't cancelled..
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Posted 09/05/2012   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would be nice to put together a catalog of the permit numbers and the companies that use them. At least to the best of our ability.

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