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Russia/Russian ________ ? Seal?

 
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Posted 08/12/2011   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cjd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've seen an online resource addressing these, and I just can't find it again...can someone refresh my recollection, please?


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Posted 08/13/2011   12:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That looks like 'TELEGRAPH' at the bottom, but beyond that ...
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Posted 08/13/2011   12:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, I bet that's right...it's pretty clearly a cut square...perhaps cut out from a telegram.

Confirmation, anyone?
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Posted 08/13/2011   12:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree it looks as though this could have been cut from a telegram or maybe it's a telegraph seal (many countries used labels to seal telegrams).

Two things for sure: these are the Russian arms and it's not a telegraph stamp.

Here's a Russian imperial telegram from 1872 from the Russian Wikipedia with the same arms at the top of the paper:

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4...m_Alexei.jpg


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Posted 08/13/2011   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp is not mine, but it is too pretty not to show here...



An 1866 Russia telegraph stamp. This scan is from a past auction, claiming fewer than ten known.

[edit: Forgot to say...thanks, guys, for the opinions.]
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Posted 08/13/2011   7:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice image! The arms are those of St Petersburg and the stamp was only used in that city.

The only other Russian telegraph stamp was a 10k surcharge in red on this one issued in 1867.
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Posted 08/18/2011   07:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Some years ago, Mr. Blair Stannard on another newsgroup sent me this positive of a similar strike,
I am trying to locate his commentary that may assist you.



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Posted 08/18/2011   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rodney,

The text under the arms on your example says something like "price 20 kopecks average".
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Posted 08/18/2011   08:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh Dear!
that sounds a bit dodgy.

I cannot locate any commentary that would go with this scan. :(
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Posted 08/23/2011   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kmncd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nigelc almost got it ,it translates from the old russian way of writing with abbreviations "Price 20 kopek in silver" an those other 2 marks have very similar look as the coin design hmm.... will post a pic.
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Posted 08/23/2011   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kmncd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks very similar.I even got the 1914 3 kopek to match it


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Posted 08/23/2011   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks kmncd!

That makes more sense. My Russian is very limited but I should have though of "serebro" for "SER.".

I came across a Ukrainian abbreviation for "average" but wasn't convinced.
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Posted 08/23/2011   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kmncd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
;) Not a problem,I know sometimes even that fancy way of cyrylic writing makes me to brush up on russian language skills - especially the old russian,I guess it's similar like old english and the current one - there is a bit of a difference...
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Posted 08/23/2011   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great stuff, all.
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