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France Stamp 1946 Unknown Over Print

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Posted 09/07/2011   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome mass, to the forum.


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I would guess it is a modern creation with Japanese seal
The amount of knowledge and ability to find information on this site is fabulous.

It appears to me that mass' comment (or question) was not a joke after all. Rather a serious inquiry to help identify the puzzling overprint. He at least had knowledge of the overprint as being Japanese.
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Posted 09/08/2011   01:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a Sunagawa seal, but not the Sunagawa seal. This seal differs in certain respects from the seal of the Japanese official in Malaya, so it would belong to another person named Sunagawa. Sunagawa isn't an outrageously uncommon name.

Personal seals are used as alternatives to signatures in Japan, and owners of seals register impressions with the government for evidentiary purposes.
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Posted 09/08/2011   02:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info, Tony!

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Posted 09/08/2011   05:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A couple of years ago, I did a job for a Japanese university (which shall remain nameless ) They wanted a receipt for my payment, and refused to accept one with my signature. Fortunately, I already had a Chinese seal, and stamped that on the receipt. They were perfectly happy with this compromise
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Posted 09/08/2011   08:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your Japanese university experience is quite the same here in Guatemala. For many documents, legal or business, a signature alone is insufficient. A rubber stamped seal, whether authoritative or ornamental is what validates a document. The signature and the stamp must intersect at some point to "prove" authenticity of the signature. Some Guatemala lick and stick revenue stamps, the person's signature must pass over the stamp or it is not a legal proof of payment.
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Posted 09/08/2011   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't bureaucracy wonderful!
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Jordan
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Posted 09/08/2011   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mass to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Dear friends

thank you for welcoming me
this stamp for other person he asking about this over print
and we know Sunagawa seal in Malaya 1942 but its not same shape and stamp date 1946
Is that France has returned to South Vietnam after the withdrawal of Japan\And sent troops in 1946 and the Vietnam War broke out the French continued until 8 years
Until 1954
But the possibility and there is no confirmed

Thank you again
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Edited by mass - 09/11/2011 06:37 am
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Posted 09/09/2011   11:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vacuum man to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I saw somewhere that there was a French foreign legion battalion from Corsica fighting in Vietnam circa 46. That would give heed to a Corsican stamp bearing a seal from the area. Definitely a puzzler. The seal may have been a left over from the Japanese occupation that they thought was legal or made the document/envelope it was attached to legal.
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