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USPS To Be Saved By Junk Mail!

 
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Posted 10/06/2011   09:51 am  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Rileysan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Am I alone in my feeling that this is absurd? If nothing else, why would a government agency encourage waste through the creation of more paper?!? The majority of which will be thrown out ...



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...itorsPicks_1
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Canada
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Posted 10/06/2011   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave9911 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Canada Post has been delivering junk mail for a few years now. My blue box lives by my mailbox, none of that junk even makes it into the house.
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Posted 10/06/2011   10:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a conundrum isn't it. Catch 22-ish. I been really hoping that something will come along to save the postal system and that junk mail must work to some degree or another especially if someone is willing to pay to have all that literature (yes I am being very generous should be- litter-ature)
up and paying to have it franked/metered so someone is reading all that junk somewhere? But I agree, sadly it seems very wasteful indeed.
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Posted 10/06/2011   10:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think junk mail and internet spam work on the same premise - They only need a small percentage of the numbers that they send out to make it worth their while.

We can put a "No Junk Mail" sign on our doors, but if it is enveloped and sent through normal post then we get it.

All a big waste!
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United States
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Posted 10/06/2011   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ajnabii to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't that go against the "Go green" policy that the USPS adopted and uses as their reason for no longer
wrapping up the FDCs that people order in a plastic sleeve?
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United Kingdom
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Posted 10/06/2011   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Might go against the Go Green policy but also goes for the Go Green policy of money.
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United States
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Posted 10/06/2011   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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policy that the USPS adopted and uses as their reason for no longer
wrapping up the FDCs that people order in a plastic sleeve?


When did this happen? I still get all of my serviced FDC's in a cellophane sleeve with a cardboard backing up through the most recent US issues. I have yet to see one FDC that has come back to me without it.
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Posted 10/06/2011   12:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ajnabii to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know but I had a friend tell me that the last ones he sent (the pixar stamps) didnt' come back with
the cellophane. Maybe it was because of the size envelopes (the long business type) he used.
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Posted 10/06/2011   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raywrio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The real waste with junk mail is that not one piece has a real stamp on it.
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Norway
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Posted 10/07/2011   07:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yobo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We deliver a lot of junk mail here in Norway as well. With the decrease of mail the junk mail is an important source of income.
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Posted 10/07/2011   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They act like the junk mail has diminished because of the internet but is in fact still there. In fact when the internet was going strong before the dot.com bubble burst sales were on the rise for junk mail. The difference is many programs have been enacted much like the opt out no call lists for phone telemarketing. I myself sent a short reply to one or two of these services and for many years now rarely receive any type of metered or junk mail. The mailings in all actuality took a nose dive when these programs were setup. Again USPS grasping at straws. The people do not want it and took back control of their mail and phones.
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Posted 10/07/2011   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 19thcenturyguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The real waste with junk mail is that not one piece has a real stamp on it.


i totally agree. maybe we could start a petition that says they have to use real stamps. lol
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Posted 10/07/2011   11:36 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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i totally agree. maybe we could start a petition that says they have to use real stamps. lol


This might actually work!
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United States
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Posted 10/08/2011   11:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clintd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Use real stamps on all mail, no meters allowed. We have 1 clerk at the local post office that only uses stamps, no matter what type of mail is posted.
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United States
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Posted 10/08/2011   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Humm, government waste? Is that anything new? If it is "waste" that keeps a
agency afloat, then is it waste? The definition of a weed is something that someone doesn't want. Some people do not like Roses, so to them they are weeds. I like roses, so I consider then a useful plant.

Junk mail employs a LOT of people, from layout artists, advertising firms, printers, delivery people, makes money when mailed, and to some people, brings enjoyment (those trying to save a penny on their expenses).

I suppose whether or not "junk mail" is a waste, is all in the eye of the beholder.
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United States
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Posted 10/21/2011   12:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Although there was an entirely separate thread about the USPS postage rate increases, effective January 22, 2012, did anyone catch this paragraph buried in their news release:


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For business mailers, today's announcement offers good news for First-Class Mail Presort mailers. When the new prices go into effect on Jan. 22, the second ounce for presorted letters will be free. "This gives companies expanded opportunities to advertise new services and products to their customers as part of bill and statement mailings," said Paul Vogel, president and chief marketing/sales officer.


The above statement is contained in the third to the last paragraph of this news release:

http://about.usps.com/news/national...pr11_116.htm

How can the USPS in good conscience make the second ounce "free" to business mailers when they are in such financial difficulties?

Am I the only one who is asking the question as to how the sending of more junk mail to consumers without an additional postage requirement by business mailers, is profitable to the post office?

It seems so contrary to the USPS's "Go Green" initiatives, I'm not certain what they intend to accomplish by moving in this direction.
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