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Posted 10/06/2011   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys

Just came across some American stamps in my stamp collection that I have not looked at for almost 40 years...Enjoy, even if this stamp is not up to par with some of you guys advanced collections.

Robert

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Posted 10/06/2011   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, Your stamp is the American Bank Note Co. printing of 1879 (Scott 183).
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Posted 10/06/2011   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ

Thanks for the heads up...I got to learn more, but still have a hard time finding Scott numbers for my stamps.

Robert
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Posted 10/06/2011   4:51 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert,

Please feel free to ask if you have questions. There are plenty of people on SCF who are more than happy to help.

Cheers!

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Posted 10/06/2011   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add artlaunier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert,

If you have an old Scott Specialized then go to the front and look at the stamp identifier section. It'll at least get you into the ballpark. Then there are the secret marks on this group...

Russ,
You have got good eyes!

Art
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Posted 10/06/2011   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamp - Perfect for my collection
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Posted 10/06/2011   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike33

Now that you mention it, it is kind of well centered isn't it...Ya, listen to me talking like a pro (ha,ha).

Robert
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Posted 10/06/2011   9:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
artlaunier

I do have and old Scott cat. (really old) and will take your advice....Thanks

Robert
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Posted 10/06/2011   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, with this stamps (vermilion color) there are just 2 possibilities Continental (178) and American (183). The Continental are on a hard stiff paper and the American on a soft porous. Identifying the paper is the first key to cataloging the banknotes. The stamp does have nice centering for this issue and the color is very bright and vibrant (extremely nice color for this issue) unfortunately the top perfs are clipped. Still a nice stamp.
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Posted 10/07/2011   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ

So, gum is the real key to identification.....Got it.

Robert
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Posted 10/07/2011   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, not the gum but the type of paper.
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Posted 10/07/2011   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ

OK...I find it hard to classify paper type when I do not have another one to compare with...Know what I mean....I will continue to struggle onward (ha,ha)

Robert
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Posted 10/07/2011   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, here is a link that might help:
http://1847usa.com/BanknotePaperTypes.htm
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Posted 10/07/2011   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ

That's what I need...Thanks for the good link, appreciate it....Their is soooooooo much info to go through.....Very intense, eh...!!

Robert
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Posted 10/07/2011   8:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ,

Color is hard to determine on the internet..
I just sent a 155/166 to Bill for ID. I can't tell the color difference as I don't have the reference collection he does. And color is the only way to tell this stamp apart from one another.
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Posted 10/07/2011   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SV, The 24, 30 and 90 cent had no "secret mark" to distinguish the National and Continential printings. The 30 and 90 are distinguished by color only. The 90 cent is described as the National being a "richer" color which is very subjective without reference samples. The 24 cent is even worse with only one copy of the Continental 164 documented (solely on the basis of the ribbed paper) while the records of the Stamp Agent shows that Continental delivered 365,000 24 cent stamps in 1875. There is much subjectivity in determination of the top 3 values.
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