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The trick with Shanghai is to decipher the arms. The motto is "all together as one" Now try and decipher the shields/countries.
The Shanghai Municipal Seal at present in use was designed by Mr. Oliver, the then Municipal Engineer, was approved by the Council in December, 1868 and brought into use in April, 1869.
The flags represented are as follows:
- Top left hand shield: Great Britain, America, France, Germany. - Top right hand shield: Russia, Denmark, Italy, Portugal. - Lower Shield: Norway and Sweden, Austria, Spain, Holland.
Countries having treaties with China but whose flags are not represented on the shield are: Belgium, Japan, Cuba, Brazil.
There was a considerable amount of objection to the design of the seal, and in 1870 Mr. Oliver prepared another in the form of a Shield with four quarters showing a railway train opposite a pagoda, a steamer opposite to a junk, and the word "Priress" underneath.
This together with a heterogeneous assortment of other designs was exhibited, but at the Ratepayers Meeting which followed it was agreed that none of the new designs proved entirely satisfactory, and, on the motion of Mr. T. W. Kingsmill, it was decided that "the present seal shall remain as the common seal of the Council until the production of a more satisfactory design."
In 1895 Mr. Mayne pointed out that the council of the seal is faulty, but the Council decided that as it had been in use so long no change was desirable.
From the North China Herald, July 8, 1916
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Thanks BK  A fascinating sideline comes to life. I'll do some more research they suggest the Prussion eagle. Perhaps addressed here "In 1895 Mr. Mayne pointed out that the council of the seal is faulty, but the Council decided that as it had been in use so long no change was desirable." says this was a slightly different version of the flag, with the German flag replaced by a white space where the flag would have been. This modification was a protest against the German European aggression of the time, presumably around WW1. Further down the same page there is an image of the "Shanghai Russian Regiment" which uses the same seal but a German flag which looks like Image:Flagge Preußen (1892-1918).png. |
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| Edited by rod222 - 11/04/2011 8:20 pm |
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Great Shanghai pieces. Love the local posts as I stated in another thread, but it is I side topic that I just have to enjoy seeing, not indulging in, yet........ |
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Facsimile of 16 Candarin (Candarenns? sic ) Shanghai LPO from an early 20th century marketing or approval card.....  |
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| Edited by rod222 - 12/06/2011 09:23 am |
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Nice one geilichina! first time I have ever seen an Chinese expertising mark  The BeeSeester! you gotta checkout Chinese local stamps they are a fascinating lot, I reckon you would get a real kick from them.... Here is a Foochow to whet your appetite.. (if you havn't already made an aquaintance)  |
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Quote: first time I have ever seen an Chinese expertising mark Sorry to deflate your weather balloon, Rod, but I don't think that's a Chinese expertising mark. The 1/2 numeral is in reverse. And that is the 1/2 cent stamp from the top scan (check out the trimmed perfs). I think that is just an ink transfer from another 1/2 stamp when they were stacked. |
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I saw one of these on ebay recently for Us$200 If you Google 'China Shanghai Local Post 1893 1c inverted wmk' you should find it. (copied below) This is my only copy.....must check the watermark   Heres a copy of the ebay |
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| Edited by Bas S Warwick - 02/06/2012 7:51 pm |
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Thanks for the heads up James. Bas, I don't consider an ebay listing price as any real guide to value. Thanks for posting though. |
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